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Martin F

1 reviews | Active since May 2014

10 May 2018, 06:07

SAD REFLECTION OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE

The issues started when I purchased a Mini Cooper from We Sell Cars. They informed me that they will let me know when the NATIS papers would be ready. After waiting almost two months I contacted them only to find out that they were having issues getting the original papers from the owner who sold the car.

This raised red flags because I cannot even sell my car to any dealership without the NATIS papers so legally I could be driving a ****** car for all I knew.

I took the vehicle back and exchanged it for a 2006 MG 160 TF which I was really crazy about. There were issues with the MG so after contacting We Sell Cars a few times they agreed to look at what it would cost to rectify the issues. Because I use the car on a regular basis for work purposes I could not afford to take it to the place that I was instructed to and leave it there for the day I drove the car for three weeks. The Cambelt broke and after several phone calls a meeting was arranged with the directors and myself.

I went to the meeting only to find out that there was no meeting instead I was offered a choice of 3 cars. I chose the Corsa Lite 1.4i which was the best choice of the 3 cars on offer.

Now this is where the issue actually comes in. I drove the Corsa for just on a month and picked up engine problems. Changed spark plugs, changed spark plug leads only to find out that it was a switch on the coil pack that is faulty.

There was a price difference between the Corsa and the MG of R3000 which they were prepared to write off. However, taking into consideration that the book value on the MG is much higher than that of the Corsa, I was requested to sign documents with regards to this price difference.

The sale value on the Corsa was R52000 and book value R26000. So here I am thinking that We Sell Cars was doing me a huge favour when in actual fact I was being done in. 100% markup on the book value price...

You can imagine my disappointment when I did an exercise by finding out how much they were willing to give me on the Corsa a month after taking it from them and their offer was R30000. R30000 on a car that they offered me in exchange for the MG which was sold to me for R49000. Go have a look at the book value of the MG.

This is totally unacceptable as We Buy Cars and We Sell Cars are both at fault here...

1. They sold me a Mini Cooper that they had no legal papers for 2. I exchanged the Mini Cooper for a MG which drove for 3 weeks and then the cambelt broke 3. I could not work for almost 3 weeks because that's how long it took them to offer me a replacement vehicle under the auspices of doing me a favour. 4. Overcharged on the Corsa making themselves look good because it "actually" cost more than what I paid for the MG. 5. Offered me R30000 on the exact same Corsa that I had bought a month prior to the evaluation and price was R52000.

Where is the justice in this and how is this fair to the consumer? I understand fully that a wholesaler benefits by purchasing these vehicles on auction but what about those who are NOT wholesalers and actually use the vehicle to do their job.

This is a really poor display of professional service We Sell Cars. You can't even trust those that say they are helping you or doing you a favour. But I guess that's what life is about. Always doing someone in.

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Martin F's update11 May 2018, 10:23
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So here we are on day three. I received a phone call from We Sell Cars the morning after posting this complaint. What does one need to do to get customer satisfaction from these guys? Justice needs to be served with this regard considering an injustice was delivered not once but several times. We as consumers need customer satisfaction and We Sell Cars is definitely not providing this. Have a look at when this was posted. No response and likely the response will be we are looking into this. I am tired of being *****ed over. This has happen way too many times in the last few months. We Sell Cars, start questioning your buyers and find out why it is that all these issues actually happen. I am afraid to say, you claim to be excluded from the CPA regulations but one thing is for sure, you are not excluded from the law. I came to you in all earnestly trusting and believing that you are actually doing me a favour because this was the message that you gave me. It is not right what was done and it is not right that you treat your clients this way. Maybe 3.22 rating on this site is acceptable to you but if it was my business I most definitely would NOT be satisfied with that rating at ALL.
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Webuycars.co.za's reply11 May 2018, 10:35
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Martin

I am awaiting feedback from Henry, and we will respond formally to this communication in due time.

I do not agree with the sentiment in your letter and I find it hugely disappointing after everything we did for you., and we will elaborate in detail on that when we answer.

Your interpretation of events represents the grimmest and most negative interpretation of events possible.

I don't have a record that we ever offered you R 30 000 on the Corsa, as you claim.

I do have a record of two other vehicles we gave you formal offers on, but none for a Corsa.

I dispute that.

Dirk

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Martin F's update11 May 2018, 11:57
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Hello Dirk Please feel free to dispute this as much as you want to. I was there to collect the NATIS papers as well as sign documentation for the Corsa and just out of interest I filled in a form for an offer to sell the Corsa. I have no reason whatsoever to lie about this and take offense to the statement that you make which implies that I am not being truthful. 1. You sold me a car (Mini Cooper) without being in possession of the original papers. 2. I exchanged this car for the MG which I drove for 3 weeks when the cambelt broke. 3. I waited 3 weeks for someone there to decide to rectify this and was then told to come in for a meeting with the directors. This did not happen because when I came in I was offered a choice of 3 cars. The Atos the salesman informed me was faulty, The Daihatsu Terios had 225000 kms on the clock so the obvious choice was the Opel Corsa. 4. The Opel I now have replaced spark plugs, spark cables and found out the issue is the coil pack. The offer that the buyer made to me on the Corsa which he spoke to me about after indicating that the book value is R26000 he offered R30000. The buyers name is Eon and you can verify. I take huge offense in the fact that you are implying that this was not the case. Why would I lie about this?
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Martin F's update11 May 2018, 12:40
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Wow... Here is a typical response that one would not expect from a company to a customer to protect themselves. I chose to sell the cars to you, this was not in any way a means where you helped me. EON was the person that I dealt with who made it quite clear that the best price he could give me on the Corsa is R30000. We had a long discussion about this in the reception area of your Midstream branch where I also raised my dissatisfaction with the events mentioned in this complaint. Clearly nobody wants to take responsibility of the wrong that has been done. So this forum is now being used to throw accusations of untruth back into the customers face. This is totally unacceptable. I am sure DIRK if someone treated you personally in this manner you would take offense.
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Martin F's update12 May 2018, 10:51
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I hereby choose to retract this statement based on the reason that Henry Harber went out of his way to assist me with this matter. It is good to know that there are good people like him still in this world. Henry thank you for what you did for me and for going the extra mile. I would recommend to everyone before you lay a complaint take the time to speak to Henry first. If he can assist he Will and this I say from personal experience. Again Henry, thank you for all your assistance and for listening as well as hearing. I apologise for this being a personal attack on you as a person because there are very few like you.