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Peter O

1 reviews | Active since Feb 2016

03 Aug 2023, 17:46

Pathetic service and what looks like inside *****

My iPhone was ****** on the morning of 5 July and hacked that evening. I asked Standard Bank to remove the phone as the trusted device and lock down my accounts on the night of 5 July (current) and on the morning of 6 July (Bond - home loans don't work in the evening). On both calls in to lock the accounts I specifically asked if there was any sign of *****, tampering anything at all and was assured there was none. That weekend I had a payment into the account and noticed the balance was horribly wrong. Called ***** and yip AFTER locking down the account funds were removed from the current account and funds moved from the home loan to try and ***** those too.

We are now a month in and after numerous calls the answer just stays the same - no feedback yet sir. Standard Bank allowed the funds to move from already locked down accounts and they still cannot give me any feedback at al?

Today I called just on 17H00 and this was the result:

Called *** and recording says ***** close at 16H30 please send email to ******** email sent but bounced back

Called *** and recording says ***** close at 17H00 please send and email to query*****@standardbank.co.za email sent and so far has not come back

And I am supposed to be happy to continue to entrust my access bond and current account with Standard Bank?

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Replies (13)
Standard Bank
Standard Bank's reply04 Aug 2023, 07:24
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Good Day Peter 

Thank you for alerting us to this. 

We would like to make sure your matter is resolved as a priority. 

We have reached out to the relevant team so that we can ensure a speedy resolution. 

Please be on the look out for a call from our team. 

Kindest regards
Standard Bank Hello Peter Team 
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Peter O's update04 Aug 2023, 14:59
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Not holding my breath here. I have been hanging on to one line to ***** for 45 mins. I dialled a different number and have not been very pleasant on the phone as I cannot sit wasting days on end waiting and waiting and then being constantly told "no feedback". 14 days went to 21 days and now the new script says 4 to 6 weeks... ***** work 08H00 - 16H30 business days only!!!! ******* work 24/7 365 days a year. This matter is beyond a joke.
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Peter O's update04 Aug 2023, 15:02
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Brilliant... I ask to speak to a manager and the person comes back and says they are in a meeting but I will get a call back as soon as they are out. I ask for the name of the manager and guess what happens next...... I get transferred to "thank you for your call please rate your service received today". Brilliant and totally non-existent understanding of customer service
Standard Bank
Standard Bank's reply04 Aug 2023, 15:13
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Dear Peter

We will follow up with our team.

Please be on the look out for further feedback.

Our sincere apologies for inconvenience caused.
 
Kindest regards
Standard Bank Hello Peter Team 
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Peter O's update04 Aug 2023, 16:41
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Exactly as expected Standard Bank.. It is now 16H40. Did that promised call from a Manager in ***** happen?

Of course not and now they are all taking the weekend off and will be back on Monday morning whilst the ******* run wild as they work 24/7 365 days a year.
Standard Bank
Standard Bank's reply04 Aug 2023, 16:55
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Dear Peter

We understand your frustration and our team is working on your matter as a priority.

We sincerely apologize for the delay and our team will reach out to you as soon as possible.

Thank you.
 
Kindest regards
Standard Bank Hello Peter Team 
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Peter O's update04 Aug 2023, 17:20
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Well the above post did just get a team member of the Standard Bank Hello Peter Team to call me!!! Let's see if they have the teeth to actually get someone to call me (on Monday.... as ***** Department don't work after hours and on weekend - funny how the the ******* work 24/7 * 365 hey!!) Please can you make sure that the person who cals me actually calls with PROPER feedback and not the drivel I have been fed for the last month.
Standard Bank
Standard Bank's reply04 Aug 2023, 17:31
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Dear Peter 

Thank you for writing back to us.

Your feedback is noted and will be shared with the team dealing with this matter.

Our sincere apologies for the inconvenience caused.

 
Kindest regards
Standard Bank Hello Peter Team 
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Peter O's update10 Aug 2023, 11:49
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Just letting you know that If I do not get a rapid and "correct" conclusion to this matter then I log the Standard Bank matter with the OBS as well.... He is where I am with Capitec....
The process for CAPITEC is logged with Ombudsman for Banking Service...... and this is my post on Facebook in which I have tagged both Capitec and Standard Bank. If I get the same treatment from Standard Bank (where their systems allowed ***** POST locking down the accounts then I will be logging a case with OBS about this too.
The banking systems aide and abet ********s to the detriment of the banks customers. All six of us will be moving our funds from Capitec as clearly their systems are severely lacking.
After what I have been through in the past weeks I cannot face the possibly of perhaps having to tel my kids that their life savings to date got nicked due to incompetence at Capitec. So clearly time to find them a more secure bank that actually cares about their customers and not the ********s.
I did warn Capitec that I would NOT take this matter lightly in anyway whatsoever.....
Notes to OBS as follows"
Phone ****** and hacked. Was on call with Capitec ***** blocking accounts as one tx happened. Closed 5 other family accounts on same call and whilst doing it another tx happened. ***K Capitec to Capitec to Bidvest. ***** helpdesk sent instruction to Bidvest to immediately freeze funds. I have comp**** with al docs needed and have chased every few days since 5 July on cals or in a branch. Constantly told "no feedback from Bidvest". I kept asking why no person picks up the phone to ask Bidvest and was constantly told that from the get go everything is done on e-messaging. Yesterday I receive d notification that Capitec were preliminary closing the case as Bidvest had advised that the funds were gone (after they had been instructed to freeze accounts being used within minutes and seconds of the 2 *****ulent transactions on the ****** and hacked phone. I was informed that a string of R2000 and R3000 send me cash transactions had been done from the Bidvest accounts. These do not happen instantaneous and with the ***** having been detected as we called in and the second tx whilst we were still on the phone I cannot accept that the case can just be closed with Capitec washing their hands of any liability. Clearly the interbank ***** systems are exceptionally loose to the point where they aide and abet the ******** element. Please note that I am currently travelling and the Police report I have saved as a pdf is too big to send through. Police report is ***/07/2023. I have managed to attach a further report covering the matter as there is also an ongoing matter with Standard Bank that I am chasing. If there is no successful conclusion here I will make a separate case with you for this as this one is scary as the ***** happened POST locking down the Standard Bank accounts. For now I would like to register and handle the Capitec matter. I can mail the doc that is too big to you on a separate email when and if you need it. Capitec does have all of this correspondence and I assume you can get it all from them.
Capitec (and the downstream bank) are no doubt fully insured and as the matter was reported as and when the TX's were happening I expect my ***K back. Clearly the system banks use to stop ***** are seriously lacking as the ******* had ample time to move the funds after the instruction to freeze the funds was given by Capitec to Bidvest. If you look at the affidavit I sent covering ***** on Standard Bank accounts you will once again see that the ***** happened POST me locking down the current and home loan accounts. This indicates to me a system that lacks any form of substance at all in preventing ***** as in both cases the funds were distributed POST an instruction to lock accounts. I fail to see why I should bear the loss when banks are insured for this and their systems are clearly totally inadequate.
Standard Bank
Standard Bank's reply10 Aug 2023, 12:10
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Dear Peter 

Thank you for writing back to us.

All the concerns raised above have been noted and we will reach out to our team.

Please be on the look out for further feedback.

Kindest regards
Standard Bank Hello Peter Team 
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Standard Bank's reply11 Aug 2023, 12:57
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Good Day 

Thank you for allowing us the opportunity to turn your experience with us into a positive one. 

Our team has assured us that the matter is resolved to your satisfaction, we are so glad we could assist. 

Should you need any further assistance, we’re always here to help. 

Kindest regards
Standard Bank Hello Peter Team 
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Peter O's update07 Sept 2023, 16:51
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Well done Standard Bank. Within a few hours of posting a warning that I had taken the Capitec matter to the Ombudsman for Banking I received a call from Standard Bank telling me that they would be refunding the ****** money in full.

Modus Operandi used by the hacker and ***** happens to have been almost identical to what happened with Capitec. In both cases funds went to Bidvest Bank and from here were extracted using a host of R2000/R3000 Cash Send Me transactions. All of this takes time but there are some interesting observations here

  1. The ****** phone landed up in Bank City
  2. The ****** phone was HACKED in Bank City
  3. Funds landed up with Bidvest
  4. In the Capitec instance we called to block the account literally as the first transaction was happening.
  5. The account was blocked and then on the same call the Capitec ***** Desk person blocek a further 5 family members Capitec accounts and returned to check my account at the end of the call. Despite the account having been blocked the *****ster managed to get another transaction to happen on the BLOCKED account and move the funds from Capitec to Capitec and then on to Bidvest - DESPITE THE ACCOUNT BEING BLOCKED FOR THE SECOND TRANSACTION!!!
  6. Capitec ***** sent an “URGENT” message to Bidvest ***** to BLOCK all funds in the chain……. I have made the point over and over again that this messaging “system” is totally useless and a bit like my teenage and young adult kids. When you ask them what time do I fetch you the answers is always I have not had a message back to I my WhatsApp about that yet. Gone are the days when people pick up a phone and ASK and or INSTRUCT a bank to actually block the funds and confirm that they have actually done it.
  7. The funds removed from Standard bank and transferred from my home loan were moved POST blocking and locking down the account - again, just like with Capitec this is very disturbing seen as the phone was hacked inside the Bank City complex and makes it smell of a syndicate with a little help from friends in the banks.
  8. I can go on and give you more horrific detail but I shall stop now and just thank Standard Bank for standing up and being counted by saying we believe there were serious idssues on our sides and we have made good by refunding you the ****** funds in full.

Well done Standard Bank.

Capitec, now order 2 months later, are still ”investigating”. They also seem to be ignoring the Ombudsman for Bankings dread line of 13 September before the matter moves to the next level.
Standard Bank
Standard Bank's reply07 Sept 2023, 17:32
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Dear Peter

Thank you for getting back to us and advising that Standard Bank has provided feedback on this investigation.

We are glad that our team could assist in ensuring that this matter is resolved timeously. 
 
Should you need any further assistance, we’re always here to help. 

Kindest regards, 
Standard Bank Hello Peter Team 
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