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Werner J
1 reviews | Active since Apr 2012
26 Jan 2022, 09:08
Vitality Money Issue AGAIN after 3 months of battle
Its my 2nd time reporting this issue, but the ineffective system is still in tact.
My Vitality Money status dropped from Diamond to Silver because according to Experian my credit debt is R30 000.00. This is a totally wrong assumption to make because the credit report cut off was 31 Dec and the debt was paid off 10 days later.
This then reflect clients, high risk of debt which is not correct. The 2nd problem is that this happens just before the February discounts are locked in, so I want this problem to be resolved within 4 days as I have proof that the debt was paid off long time back so there is no reason to PENALISE clients if experian draws incorrect conclusions.
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Replies (18)Discovery Bank's replyOfficial
26 Jan 2022, 09:21Hi Werner
Thanks for reaching out.
If the data we have is incorrect, please send us your updated experien report.
I will have our team update this information ASAP once you have sent us this document.
Please send this information to the email address clientdocuments @ discovery.bank
Regards
Girshwin
Thanks for reaching out.
If the data we have is incorrect, please send us your updated experien report.
I will have our team update this information ASAP once you have sent us this document.
Please send this information to the email address clientdocuments @ discovery.bank
Regards
Girshwin
Discovery Bank's reply26 Jan 2022, 09:21
Official
Hi Werner
Thanks for reaching out.
If the data we have is incorrect, please send us your updated experien report.
I will have our team update this information ASAP once you have sent us this document.
Please send this information to the email address clientdocuments @ discovery.bank
Regards
Girshwin
Thanks for reaching out.
If the data we have is incorrect, please send us your updated experien report.
I will have our team update this information ASAP once you have sent us this document.
Please send this information to the email address clientdocuments @ discovery.bank
Regards
Girshwin
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Werner J's updateReviewer Update
26 Jan 2022, 09:24Experian confirmed that credit reports can only be updated 30 days after transaction occurrence as this needs to allow system refresh to be updated...
This now leaves me in the middle of the problem AGAIN!!!
This now leaves me in the middle of the problem AGAIN!!!
WJ
Werner J's update26 Jan 2022, 09:24
Reviewer Update
Experian confirmed that credit reports can only be updated 30 days after transaction occurrence as this needs to allow system refresh to be updated...
This now leaves me in the middle of the problem AGAIN!!!
This now leaves me in the middle of the problem AGAIN!!!
Discovery Bank's replyOfficial
26 Jan 2022, 09:28Unfortunately, we can not make any amendments to data without any substantial evidence that the information we have is incorrect.
Discovery Bank's reply26 Jan 2022, 09:28
Official
Unfortunately, we can not make any amendments to data without any substantial evidence that the information we have is incorrect.
WJ
Werner J's updateReviewer Update
26 Jan 2022, 09:33Effective customer care is looking at direct evidence from clients that explains the problem.
Again that was my fight last time as you simply just leave the customer right in the middle of the problem without going just one mile extra and LOOKING AT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE PROVIDED BY THE CLIENT...
Substantial evidence is accepting a bank statement from clients reflecting the paid up debt. To rely on Experian's outdated system is relying on SUBSTANDARD EVIDENCE.
Again that was my fight last time as you simply just leave the customer right in the middle of the problem without going just one mile extra and LOOKING AT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE PROVIDED BY THE CLIENT...
Substantial evidence is accepting a bank statement from clients reflecting the paid up debt. To rely on Experian's outdated system is relying on SUBSTANDARD EVIDENCE.
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Werner J's update26 Jan 2022, 09:33
Reviewer Update
Effective customer care is looking at direct evidence from clients that explains the problem.
Again that was my fight last time as you simply just leave the customer right in the middle of the problem without going just one mile extra and LOOKING AT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE PROVIDED BY THE CLIENT...
Substantial evidence is accepting a bank statement from clients reflecting the paid up debt. To rely on Experian's outdated system is relying on SUBSTANDARD EVIDENCE.
Again that was my fight last time as you simply just leave the customer right in the middle of the problem without going just one mile extra and LOOKING AT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE PROVIDED BY THE CLIENT...
Substantial evidence is accepting a bank statement from clients reflecting the paid up debt. To rely on Experian's outdated system is relying on SUBSTANDARD EVIDENCE.
Discovery Bank's replyOfficial
26 Jan 2022, 09:48Unfortunately, our team will only accept an updated Experian report to update this information.
Discovery Bank's reply26 Jan 2022, 09:48
Official
Unfortunately, our team will only accept an updated Experian report to update this information.
WJ
Werner J's updateReviewer Update
26 Jan 2022, 09:54Then I must say that Experian is not the correct credit provider to use as this gives incorrect reflection of client's actual credit scoring...
Your customer service is actually *********** to say the least!!!!!
Your customer service is actually *********** to say the least!!!!!
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Werner J's update26 Jan 2022, 09:54
Reviewer Update
Then I must say that Experian is not the correct credit provider to use as this gives incorrect reflection of client's actual credit scoring...
Your customer service is actually *********** to say the least!!!!!
Your customer service is actually *********** to say the least!!!!!
Discovery Bank's replyOfficial
26 Jan 2022, 09:58Once you have provided us with this information, we will have your data reassessed and if needs be, we will amend it as well.
Discovery Bank's reply26 Jan 2022, 09:58
Official
Once you have provided us with this information, we will have your data reassessed and if needs be, we will amend it as well.
WJ
Werner J's updateReviewer Update
26 Jan 2022, 11:15I'm not sure what data you are talking about as I don't have an updated experian report as they DONT HAVE CURRENT CREDIT REPORTS THAT REFLECT CORRECT DETAILS.
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Werner J's update26 Jan 2022, 11:15
Reviewer Update
I'm not sure what data you are talking about as I don't have an updated experian report as they DONT HAVE CURRENT CREDIT REPORTS THAT REFLECT CORRECT DETAILS.
Discovery Bank's replyOfficial
26 Jan 2022, 11:18Unfortunately, we cannot assist without this information from Experian.
Discovery Bank's reply26 Jan 2022, 11:18
Official
Unfortunately, we cannot assist without this information from Experian.
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Werner J's updateReviewer Update
26 Jan 2022, 11:19I don't understand your logic around credit reports.
If i purchase for R100 000 on the 31 of a month and the credit report gets updated on that day, then it reflect a debt of R100' even if you pay it off the next day.
This then reflects on Discovery vitality money as VERY negative and your status gets downgraded to bronze.
Ineffective system to say the least.
If i purchase for R100 000 on the 31 of a month and the credit report gets updated on that day, then it reflect a debt of R100' even if you pay it off the next day.
This then reflects on Discovery vitality money as VERY negative and your status gets downgraded to bronze.
Ineffective system to say the least.
WJ
Werner J's update26 Jan 2022, 11:19
Reviewer Update
I don't understand your logic around credit reports.
If i purchase for R100 000 on the 31 of a month and the credit report gets updated on that day, then it reflect a debt of R100' even if you pay it off the next day.
This then reflects on Discovery vitality money as VERY negative and your status gets downgraded to bronze.
Ineffective system to say the least.
If i purchase for R100 000 on the 31 of a month and the credit report gets updated on that day, then it reflect a debt of R100' even if you pay it off the next day.
This then reflects on Discovery vitality money as VERY negative and your status gets downgraded to bronze.
Ineffective system to say the least.
Discovery Bank's replyOfficial
26 Jan 2022, 11:24We do apologise for any inconvenience caused to you.
Discovery Bank's reply26 Jan 2022, 11:24
Official
We do apologise for any inconvenience caused to you.
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Werner J's updateReviewer Update
26 Jan 2022, 11:37Again poor customer service response. You should escalate this to management and make a manual adjustment on my account.
I think you should relook at your processes as this is a real inconvenience for customers as this means
10% LOSS in food discount. (50%-40%)
5% LOSS in fuel spend. (15%-5%)
20% LOSS in exercise points. (60%-40%)
This problem should be escalated to management and it will be great if management can give CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK by phoning me as this error will keep on happening and the customer cannot do anything about it.
I think you should relook at your processes as this is a real inconvenience for customers as this means
10% LOSS in food discount. (50%-40%)
5% LOSS in fuel spend. (15%-5%)
20% LOSS in exercise points. (60%-40%)
This problem should be escalated to management and it will be great if management can give CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK by phoning me as this error will keep on happening and the customer cannot do anything about it.
WJ
Werner J's update26 Jan 2022, 11:37
Reviewer Update
Again poor customer service response. You should escalate this to management and make a manual adjustment on my account.
I think you should relook at your processes as this is a real inconvenience for customers as this means
10% LOSS in food discount. (50%-40%)
5% LOSS in fuel spend. (15%-5%)
20% LOSS in exercise points. (60%-40%)
This problem should be escalated to management and it will be great if management can give CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK by phoning me as this error will keep on happening and the customer cannot do anything about it.
I think you should relook at your processes as this is a real inconvenience for customers as this means
10% LOSS in food discount. (50%-40%)
5% LOSS in fuel spend. (15%-5%)
20% LOSS in exercise points. (60%-40%)
This problem should be escalated to management and it will be great if management can give CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK by phoning me as this error will keep on happening and the customer cannot do anything about it.
Discovery Bank's replyOfficial
26 Jan 2022, 11:49Unfortunately we can not make any manual adjustments to your profile without the proper supporting documents. IF our data is incorrect we will adjust your profile accordingly.
Discovery Bank's reply26 Jan 2022, 11:49
Official
Unfortunately we can not make any manual adjustments to your profile without the proper supporting documents. IF our data is incorrect we will adjust your profile accordingly.
WJ
Werner J's updateReviewer Update
26 Jan 2022, 11:58Excuse me but you did not even look into my profile to see where the error is... You just keep on giving generic answers.
If you take a moment in looking at the statement that I was sending to your email ***. You would give appropriate answers.
Your data IS INCORRECT as you rely on outdated Experian report that was last updated 31 Dec 21.
If you take a moment in looking at the statement that I was sending to your email ***. You would give appropriate answers.
Your data IS INCORRECT as you rely on outdated Experian report that was last updated 31 Dec 21.
WJ
Werner J's update26 Jan 2022, 11:58
Reviewer Update
Excuse me but you did not even look into my profile to see where the error is... You just keep on giving generic answers.
If you take a moment in looking at the statement that I was sending to your email ***. You would give appropriate answers.
Your data IS INCORRECT as you rely on outdated Experian report that was last updated 31 Dec 21.
If you take a moment in looking at the statement that I was sending to your email ***. You would give appropriate answers.
Your data IS INCORRECT as you rely on outdated Experian report that was last updated 31 Dec 21.
WJ
Werner J's updateReviewer Update
27 Jan 2022, 09:40Absolutely true.
My balance as at 1 Dec was R 30390.
On the 8th of Dec payment was made of R 25328.10
Balance as at 8th Dec was R 5061.90
If Experian communicated the report like you say on the 15th of Jan then that would have reflected the correct balance of R 5061.90, but experian is not doing timely updates and only reflects payments done on the 29th of Nov..
Discovery is not taking movements during the month into consideration. They say I have unsecured debt, but the balance was already settled 55 days back.
The problem now is that Experian only does the account updates after 3o days whereby I will again by penalized for the month of march.
When you look at transunion reports they only show payments as at May 2021, that is even worse.
You see what the problem is... If one does not get the timing right then one is heavily *****ed...
Last time it took 2 months to be resolved.. And again it will be so for this case to
Problem resolution.
Don't rely on Experian as their data is outdated.
Relook at how you do your scoring..
My balance as at 1 Dec was R 30390.
On the 8th of Dec payment was made of R 25328.10
Balance as at 8th Dec was R 5061.90
If Experian communicated the report like you say on the 15th of Jan then that would have reflected the correct balance of R 5061.90, but experian is not doing timely updates and only reflects payments done on the 29th of Nov..
Discovery is not taking movements during the month into consideration. They say I have unsecured debt, but the balance was already settled 55 days back.
The problem now is that Experian only does the account updates after 3o days whereby I will again by penalized for the month of march.
When you look at transunion reports they only show payments as at May 2021, that is even worse.
You see what the problem is... If one does not get the timing right then one is heavily *****ed...
Last time it took 2 months to be resolved.. And again it will be so for this case to
Problem resolution.
Don't rely on Experian as their data is outdated.
Relook at how you do your scoring..
WJ
Werner J's update27 Jan 2022, 09:40
Reviewer Update
Absolutely true.
My balance as at 1 Dec was R 30390.
On the 8th of Dec payment was made of R 25328.10
Balance as at 8th Dec was R 5061.90
If Experian communicated the report like you say on the 15th of Jan then that would have reflected the correct balance of R 5061.90, but experian is not doing timely updates and only reflects payments done on the 29th of Nov..
Discovery is not taking movements during the month into consideration. They say I have unsecured debt, but the balance was already settled 55 days back.
The problem now is that Experian only does the account updates after 3o days whereby I will again by penalized for the month of march.
When you look at transunion reports they only show payments as at May 2021, that is even worse.
You see what the problem is... If one does not get the timing right then one is heavily *****ed...
Last time it took 2 months to be resolved.. And again it will be so for this case to
Problem resolution.
Don't rely on Experian as their data is outdated.
Relook at how you do your scoring..
My balance as at 1 Dec was R 30390.
On the 8th of Dec payment was made of R 25328.10
Balance as at 8th Dec was R 5061.90
If Experian communicated the report like you say on the 15th of Jan then that would have reflected the correct balance of R 5061.90, but experian is not doing timely updates and only reflects payments done on the 29th of Nov..
Discovery is not taking movements during the month into consideration. They say I have unsecured debt, but the balance was already settled 55 days back.
The problem now is that Experian only does the account updates after 3o days whereby I will again by penalized for the month of march.
When you look at transunion reports they only show payments as at May 2021, that is even worse.
You see what the problem is... If one does not get the timing right then one is heavily *****ed...
Last time it took 2 months to be resolved.. And again it will be so for this case to
Problem resolution.
Don't rely on Experian as their data is outdated.
Relook at how you do your scoring..
WJ
Werner J's updateReviewer Update
28 Jan 2022, 08:28Do you agree with me where the problem is?
What are you going to do about it?
What are you going to do about it?
WJ
Werner J's update28 Jan 2022, 08:28
Reviewer Update
Do you agree with me where the problem is?
What are you going to do about it?
What are you going to do about it?
WJ
Werner J's updateReviewer Update
28 Jan 2022, 08:35I understand Girshwin
Thanks for the response
If I can get an updated experian report, then you will be able to help me?
Thanks for the response
If I can get an updated experian report, then you will be able to help me?
WJ
Werner J's update28 Jan 2022, 08:35
Reviewer Update
I understand Girshwin
Thanks for the response
If I can get an updated experian report, then you will be able to help me?
Thanks for the response
If I can get an updated experian report, then you will be able to help me?
Discovery Bank's replyOfficial
28 Jan 2022, 08:43Yes most definately.
Discovery Bank's reply28 Jan 2022, 08:43
Official
Yes most definately.
