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Glodi M

1 reviews | Active since Dec 2022

15 Feb 2024, 21:59

My worse experience with Jean Marc Trade

Warning if you want to buy a car from Trade Marc...

I was asked to remove this very same review from jean marc in order for him to assist me . It seems like he likes waiting time . refer to other reviews .

I bought a BMW X1 on the 19th of January 2022 from Jean Marc Auto for my Wife as I am most of time outside of the country or city. As a new owner I ask for any previous service history of the car if the car was in any accident or measure change, Jean Marc the owner told me that the car is in great great condition with no history of the car . Very unprofessional when it comes to communication ,making me run around telling me told to go bring the key to any BMW they will retrieve the history ,which according to them it was up to date . From the first few weeks of having the car,it started making a knocking noise which after reporting via my friend who works there he quickly took the car for a repair without telling me exactly what was changed. Then the same problem happen again 5 months prior the warranty expires . I told him that i do not want this car again even was in contact with embossment . Same old making me run around that he spend a lot of money fixing thie car and there is no problem with the car . Just 6 month after his warrnty expires while in the lengthy process of embossment the very same problem occur . Which i myself went to him to tell me that my warranty has expired , therefore i can not give back the car . With the same knocking soung on the engine i brought the car my self to Ross Duncan workshop which he reffererd me to. Supprisignly the mechanic told me that the car is a s**** car since there is a lot of failures that was long ago known by the owner but kept it from me. The oil pump was failure resulting a failure of crunk shaft ,conrods ect.... which cost me 89k to fix this engine so the car was almost a year in the workshop while i am working my way to orginise the founds the car was done in march- April 2023. But was only able to pick it in september due to the finance . 2 Month later the very same problem occur which this time it was under warranty of Ross Duncan since the part bought was original from BMW and Note that according to Duncan the oil Pump was recalled by BMW due to a manufacturing failure . The car was then Brought again to Ross to re-do the very same job he did in from novemebr 2022 to march 2023 .

From the date i bought the car till now 04-February 2024 i drove the car for only 2k in terms of mileage because the car was mostly in a workshop than with my wife . I got tired of the car after collecting it and fixing it, I decided to go sell it. Going to the car dealers 4 of them were happy about the condition i kept the car just to find out that the engine was changed at my suprise even giving me the old Engine number . Then tried reaching jean Marc without success then left him a voice note . after the message. Later on after insisting i eventually spoke to him with the same unprofessionalism that first the car engine is correct that i do not understand while i was the one calling to ask about the engine change without me being aware , then he will say yes the engine was changed while with me by the time i was sending the car to him to fix the noise in the engine . I will respond if you changed something measure like that will you not communicate with your customer as always he will say :"You can bring me anywhere you want i have not done anything wrong ".

Later on he come back in whatsapp saying i will go in my docs and revert back . on the 2nd i recived an email saying that yes the car engine was change 2 to 3 month prior i got the car ...Such a big hidden information to the client . Which now i am sitting with a car although repaired that i can not sell by the serious car dealer because of the engine change . He does not want to get his car back unless i do the trade in which i do not want anything to do anymore with Jean Marc auto . Dispite all the documents he sent me i asked him to please take his car back and sell it just to give me back regardless of my lossed of fixing the car , to pay me back the money i bought the car and i will sort out the bank myself . till now silence radio .

What a bad experience and customer care! Don’t bother going to this dealership Hopefully you do not end up having my bad experience with Jean trade Marc Audo .

I have all emails and whatsapp communications should anyone be interested in more details .

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Glodi M's update15 Feb 2024, 22:15
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Richard to Jean Marc 2 Feb 2024, 12:23

Good day Jean Marc and trade marc team.

I trust this email finds you well.

After 2 years, purchasing the BMW x1 from you ,the bmw has been a daily problematic issue, which you were quickly fixing so that the six month lapses for you to tell me that the car can not be returned and 6 months later that your warranty with us is no longer valid while you knew that the engine of the car was changed without informing me i kept all communication till now . And not telling me upfront that the BMW had the changed engine which i just found out while trying to sell the car to a the dealers ,who sent me the original engine part and said they can not buy a car with a changed engine.

After fixing it at my own cost. I come to plead with you to take your car back which for 2 years i have driven only 2k from the day i bought it, because it was more in the mechanic workshop than with me.

The vehicle I have fixed under warranty please take your vehicle ,I have lost so much on this vehicle and i am accepting the lost, pay me the original amount of that car from the day i bought it and i will still sort out the bank myself.

I believe you knew all along the problem of this car reason why within the 6 months we were contacting and told you about embossment , funny enough even when i came to tell you about the car engine you still had the courage to tell me that when i was sending the car to you to be fixed you replaced the engine without informing the customer consent and receiving your email that you made a mistake that brings lot of questions. Nevertheless i dont t want to trade in i want you to take your car back and pay me the original price the car was sold . i will settle with the bank . Note that all the part fixed in that car engine is under bmw warranty .
I am unable to sell that car big dealers unless i find a private which i posted the car for 2 years with no potential buyer.

Hoping you meet us half way should you still refuse and as you told me countless time to bring you anywhere i want, then I have tried to be reasonable.
I have all communication on WhatsApp and email regarding this car.
Please advise as soon as possible.

Jean Marc to richard Fri, 9 Feb, 09:34


Good morning.
Please give consent for us to get a settlement figure on the car. In order for us to see how we can reach an amicable resolve. Prior to doing so please remove your comment on Hellopeter in order for us to start the process.
Regards
Jean-Marc

Richard to Jean Marc Fri, 9 Feb, 15:46

Good day Jean Marc,
Please be explicit what settlement figure are you referring to?
I believe you have seen my previous communication.
Please note that all actions will be removed and withdrawn as soon as this matter is resolved.
Regards

Jean Marc to Richard 9 Feb 2024, 16:24

Good afternoon

The settlement amount outstanding to the bank for the car. I’m attempting to assist in a delicate matter and out of good faith. Once I know the settlement amount outstanding I can plan a way forward. I will not entertain any further discussion in the matter until the allegations have been withdrawn from HelloPeter.
If we are unable to reach an amicable resolution you welcome to proceed with your allegations to Helopeter to which I will respond. May I request all correspondence to be via email only. I will not engage with WhatsApp or message communication.
Regards
Jean-Marc

Richard to Jean Marc 10 Feb 2024, 09:09


Good day Jean Marc,
First and foremost email is auspicious and professional.
If your customer complaints are an entertainment for you,then I am more worried for all your other customers .
Yet you are saying it is a delicate matter .Why the contradiction...

This could have been avoided if you considered the voice of your customer in the first place.

You waited for the hellopeter email for you to act. I reached out to you prior to hello Peter.
You have the right to reply to all the negative reviews.

Nevertheless I have the settlement letter from the bank and it stands about R78,346.94 as of February 2024.
I will only remove the comment of hellopeter once this issue has been resolved because till now i do not know what solution you are bringing here for me to remove the comment on hellopeter .
As per my email I proposed a clear and amical solution. In my view you have not proposed anything as yet .

Please advise
Regards

Richard to Jean Marc Wed, 14 Feb, 11:29

Good day Jean mark,
I have removed the hello Peter communication, please advise a way forward now.
Regards,

Richard To Jean Marc Wed, 14 Feb, 12:59


Hi Jean Marc .
As discussed, awaiting for your email .
And most importantly please provide full details of how you would solve this problem.
Regards

Jean to Richard 14 Feb 2024, 20:41


Good Evening Richard
I propose the following in order to assist you.

Please bring the car to the dealership on an agreed date next week, whereby I can inspect, drive and do an evaluation on the car. I am willing to assist you in selling the car. At a market related price determined by myself. See attached current trade and retail value for the car from Transunion.

Once the vehicle is sold Trade-Marc will settle the outstanding finance with Standard bank and pay you the difference, less any costs incurred to Trade-Marc,( such as fuel, valet, roadworthy, license and registration costs etc.

Example Selling Price R159000.00
Settlement R78690.59

Cost of sale R4950.00

Amount to you R75359.41

Please note Trade-Marc still has to warrant the car for the next six months on completion of sale, I am under no obligation to assist you nor do I accept any liability for the transaction that transpired more than two years ago, As an act of good faith and the fact you have had a bad experience with my company, It doesn’t sit well with me despite what you may feel. I think this proposal is more than fair.
Regards
Jean-Marc

Richard to Jean Marc 14 Feb 2024, 22:42

Good day Jean Marc

From the start of this car you knew all these problems, again the car has not been driven because it was more in the workshop than with me.
If you care about your customers the above has to be your problem. Since you sold s****ped car in a good envelope .
I fixed this car at my own cost but I can no longer keep this car for another week, needless another 6 month.There is no time frame or guarantee that this vehicle will be sold as you say. In the meantime I have to keep on paying installment for a car that I do not drive. If it was not for the engine change revelation, this car would have been sold already.
I can bring the car tomorrow. You do all your testing to confirm the above, run your evaluation, and pay me the amount discussed in my first proposition and I will settle with the bank. Then you can find a buyer for the car.
After all ,it the car you sold without telling your customer that engine was replaced and among many other problems finding myself paying 87k to fix that same engine you finally acknowledge that was changed without my knowledge exactly 6 months after your warranty has expired .
With all this experience and frustration please consider my proposition Because you will loose nothing by buying your own car .

Please advise

Silence Radio From Jean marc .....