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SANTAM YOUR DEFENCE IS WEAK
SANTAM, we've provided the death certificate showing cause of death to be non-cardiovascular and a statement by a medical professional confirming no prior medical history and yet you reject our claims.
TIC, a specialist division of SANTAM, rejected our claims for my canceled flight and my husband's curtailed flight. We specifically used our FNB credit card to pay for these tickets in order to make use of the attractive travel insurance benefit that is so widely purported. Flights were booked in April this year and we were satisfied that we would be covered for any of life's eventualities. My healthy, active 81-year old mother took ill on 4th July and was hospitalised for a brain hemorrhage affecting her communication. Within days she had made a remarkable recovery and was admitted to rehab. Within 24-hours of being in this facility, she developed pneumonia due to neglect and had to be rehospitalised. Again, she recovered, and yet again she developed pneumonia. By the end of July, I canceled my ticket as it was becoming clear that my mother would require supervision once discharged from hospital. My husband would go alone.
I submitted a claim which was rejected as my mother was still alive and over the age of 70 with a cardiovascular condition. I could accept this. My mother subsequently succumbed on 18th August from pneumonia as stated on the death certificate. Their policy wording stated that claims would not be honoured for the cancellation or curtailment due to the death of a family member older than 70 from a cardiovascular condition. Her GP confirmed no prior history of cardiovascular disease and the death certificate confirmed pneumonia and cardiac arrest - THE LATTER IS HOW WE ALL DIE BECAUSE OUR HEARTS STOP AND WAS NOT A CAUSE OF DEATH IN THIS INSTANCE. My mother had no prior medical history of a heart condition. Still, our claims were rejected - on what basis I do not know - I reiterate that cause of death was not cardiovascular in nature so on what grounds was this claim rejected. Why would Santam uphold their decision when the death certificate and medical history show otherwise.
Is TIC just a frilly incentive masquerading as solid insurance cover because it is backed by a longstanding household name to give it credibility, used to entice you into booking holidays on credit that you otherwise couldn't afford, and when it comes to an actual payout they twist their policy wording to suit themselves? Or should the FNB credit card division rather revise their joint venture strategies and team up with companies who have a solid reputation for honouring their claims?
Thank you for your post here.
We are truly sorry for your loss and the service received from TIC in respect of your claim.
We note you have not provided us with your claim or policy number though.
We will be in contact via email requesting same to enable us to approach TIC to provide us with feedback.
Kind regards
Stephan Olivier
Client care media manager
Best regards,
Thank you for your post here.
We are truly sorry for your loss and the service received from TIC in respect of your claim.
We note you have not provided us with your claim or policy number though.
We will be in contact via email requesting same to enable us to approach TIC to provide us with feedback.
Kind regards
Stephan Olivier
Client care media manager
Best regards,
Thank you for your response and condolences. I have emailed you the details.
Kind regards,
Giuliana Claasen
Thank you for your response and condolences. I have emailed you the details.
Kind regards,
Giuliana Claasen
This brings me to your verdict of 'complications from a stroke.' Your policy wording does not make provision for complications, only conditions. I stand by my original statement that your defence is weak - owing to the lengths you went to avoid a payout when all evidence suggested otherwise. First using the argument of Cardiac Arrest- which turned out not to be cardiovascular. When that failed you requested medical records to prove a pre-existing condition - which there wasn't. When that failed you were left with no choice but to go the complications route, and to further strengthen your argument, my mother’s age. The message that this sends out is two-pronged: that SANTAM and their travel insurance arm are not inclined to honour their claims even when presented with evidence to the contrary, and that people over the age of 70 do not form part of their business model, or reluctantly so.
Your policy wording states: Section 4.1: Journey cancellation & 4.2 Journey curtailment - we will pay for or reimburse You the non-refundable portion of travel....as a result of one of the following: 1. Unforeseen, unexpected and sudden death of...Your Immediate Family. Medical reasons for cancellation must not be relating to a pre-existing medical condition. There was no pre-existing medical condition - as was confirmed by the medical professional treating my mother. But this did not further your aims given that you continued to relentlessly pursue a different reason to reject. Section 4: Exclusions - we will not pay for any claim arising from
" g. vascular, cardiovascular or cerebrovascular conditions .... a member of your immediate family is over the age of 70 years." Nowhere in this wording does it state complications. Again I refer to the definition of a medical condition vs a medical complication - the one is as a result of another and can never mean the same thing. Complications arise from incorrect treatment or negligent care. "A complication in medicine, or medical complication, is an unfavorable result of a disease, health condition, or treatment." source: wikipedia.org I provided the death certificate, as requested, to show that cause was not a stroke. It stated pneumonia and cardiac arrest. The death certificate did not state a vascular, cardiovascular or cerebrovascular condition. We already know that cardiac arrest is not related to cardiovascular disease. So, I reiterate - based on your policy wording we have fulfilled all the conditions for our claim to succeed, yet you have again sought to find reasons to reject it: 1. Cause of death, not related to a pre-existing medical condition (see letter of Dr. Thom) 2. Cause of death, though over 70, not a cardiovascular condition (see death certificate) I was asked to supply a death certificate showing cause (not complications) as well as medical history. I comp****. In the final analysis, my mother passed away at the age of 82 from pneumonia and had no pre-existing cardiovascular or related medical condition. I have proved this. You, however, have chosen to interpret your policy wording to suit your own ends.
This brings me to your verdict of 'complications from a stroke.' Your policy wording does not make provision for complications, only conditions. I stand by my original statement that your defence is weak - owing to the lengths you went to avoid a payout when all evidence suggested otherwise. First using the argument of Cardiac Arrest- which turned out not to be cardiovascular. When that failed you requested medical records to prove a pre-existing condition - which there wasn't. When that failed you were left with no choice but to go the complications route, and to further strengthen your argument, my mother’s age. The message that this sends out is two-pronged: that SANTAM and their travel insurance arm are not inclined to honour their claims even when presented with evidence to the contrary, and that people over the age of 70 do not form part of their business model, or reluctantly so.
Your policy wording states: Section 4.1: Journey cancellation & 4.2 Journey curtailment - we will pay for or reimburse You the non-refundable portion of travel....as a result of one of the following: 1. Unforeseen, unexpected and sudden death of...Your Immediate Family. Medical reasons for cancellation must not be relating to a pre-existing medical condition. There was no pre-existing medical condition - as was confirmed by the medical professional treating my mother. But this did not further your aims given that you continued to relentlessly pursue a different reason to reject. Section 4: Exclusions - we will not pay for any claim arising from
" g. vascular, cardiovascular or cerebrovascular conditions .... a member of your immediate family is over the age of 70 years." Nowhere in this wording does it state complications. Again I refer to the definition of a medical condition vs a medical complication - the one is as a result of another and can never mean the same thing. Complications arise from incorrect treatment or negligent care. "A complication in medicine, or medical complication, is an unfavorable result of a disease, health condition, or treatment." source: wikipedia.org I provided the death certificate, as requested, to show that cause was not a stroke. It stated pneumonia and cardiac arrest. The death certificate did not state a vascular, cardiovascular or cerebrovascular condition. We already know that cardiac arrest is not related to cardiovascular disease. So, I reiterate - based on your policy wording we have fulfilled all the conditions for our claim to succeed, yet you have again sought to find reasons to reject it: 1. Cause of death, not related to a pre-existing medical condition (see letter of Dr. Thom) 2. Cause of death, though over 70, not a cardiovascular condition (see death certificate) I was asked to supply a death certificate showing cause (not complications) as well as medical history. I comp****. In the final analysis, my mother passed away at the age of 82 from pneumonia and had no pre-existing cardiovascular or related medical condition. I have proved this. You, however, have chosen to interpret your policy wording to suit your own ends.
