JS
Joe S
1 reviews | Active since Mar 2009
09 Jun 2025, 15:08
Into my 3rd week waiting for them to change contact details
Like many, it's a pity you can't give a no star rating!
Not going to waste my time - you can see it in all the other reviews.
Getting my money out while you still can.
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Replies (20)Sanlam's replyOfficial
09 Jun 2025, 15:18Good afternoon Joe
We are really sorry to learn of your poor service experience and have arranged for you to be contacted and assisted.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We are really sorry to learn of your poor service experience and have arranged for you to be contacted and assisted.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's reply09 Jun 2025, 15:18
Official
Good afternoon Joe
We are really sorry to learn of your poor service experience and have arranged for you to be contacted and assisted.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We are really sorry to learn of your poor service experience and have arranged for you to be contacted and assisted.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
JS
Joe S's updateReviewer Update
09 Jun 2025, 15:22Hopefully before I die!
JS
Joe S's update09 Jun 2025, 15:22
Reviewer Update
Hopefully before I die!
Sanlam's replyOfficial
09 Jun 2025, 15:40Hello Joe
We have received feedback that Sanlam Corporate has sent you an email.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have received feedback that Sanlam Corporate has sent you an email.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's reply09 Jun 2025, 15:40
Official
Hello Joe
We have received feedback that Sanlam Corporate has sent you an email.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have received feedback that Sanlam Corporate has sent you an email.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
JS
Joe S's updateReviewer Update
09 Jun 2025, 16:08The problem is the email claims you've changed my contact details, but you haven't.
I understand you work in a reputation team, you read a script, and you don't have any influence over this. I doubt you ever work for Sanlam.
Let me help you. To do anything on self-serve requires second-factor authentication. That means you send me an SMS code to verify its me. I have no no ending in *5995.
3 weeks later and you cant even get that right! 🤯
I understand you work in a reputation team, you read a script, and you don't have any influence over this. I doubt you ever work for Sanlam.
Let me help you. To do anything on self-serve requires second-factor authentication. That means you send me an SMS code to verify its me. I have no no ending in *5995.
3 weeks later and you cant even get that right! 🤯
JS
Joe S's update09 Jun 2025, 16:08
Reviewer Update
The problem is the email claims you've changed my contact details, but you haven't.
I understand you work in a reputation team, you read a script, and you don't have any influence over this. I doubt you ever work for Sanlam.
Let me help you. To do anything on self-serve requires second-factor authentication. That means you send me an SMS code to verify its me. I have no no ending in *5995.
3 weeks later and you cant even get that right! 🤯
I understand you work in a reputation team, you read a script, and you don't have any influence over this. I doubt you ever work for Sanlam.
Let me help you. To do anything on self-serve requires second-factor authentication. That means you send me an SMS code to verify its me. I have no no ending in *5995.
3 weeks later and you cant even get that right! 🤯
Sanlam's replyOfficial
09 Jun 2025, 16:11Please respond to the email for further assistance.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's reply09 Jun 2025, 16:11
Official
Please respond to the email for further assistance.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
JS
Joe S's updateReviewer Update
09 Jun 2025, 16:12I have already. I suggest you check before sending redundant messages in future.
JS
Joe S's update09 Jun 2025, 16:12
Reviewer Update
I have already. I suggest you check before sending redundant messages in future.
JS
Joe S's updateReviewer Update
10 Jun 2025, 10:27Sanlam tried to make changes. They didn't work. Still waiting.
JS
Joe S's update10 Jun 2025, 10:27
Reviewer Update
Sanlam tried to make changes. They didn't work. Still waiting.
Sanlam's replyOfficial
10 Jun 2025, 11:01Good morning Joe
We have relayed your message to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have relayed your message to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's reply10 Jun 2025, 11:01
Official
Good morning Joe
We have relayed your message to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have relayed your message to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's replyOfficial
10 Jun 2025, 11:35Hello Joe
We have received feedback that you have been assisted.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have received feedback that you have been assisted.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's reply10 Jun 2025, 11:35
Official
Hello Joe
We have received feedback that you have been assisted.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have received feedback that you have been assisted.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
JS
Joe S's updateReviewer Update
10 Jun 2025, 11:59Are you Sanlam client Care or Sanlam's client Parrot?
Why am I here if the issue has been resolved? I'm not here playing games.
If I had what I needed I would move on.
When they give you feedback ask to them to show it to you, else you are just that, a parrot.
Why am I here if the issue has been resolved? I'm not here playing games.
If I had what I needed I would move on.
When they give you feedback ask to them to show it to you, else you are just that, a parrot.
JS
Joe S's update10 Jun 2025, 11:59
Reviewer Update
Are you Sanlam client Care or Sanlam's client Parrot?
Why am I here if the issue has been resolved? I'm not here playing games.
If I had what I needed I would move on.
When they give you feedback ask to them to show it to you, else you are just that, a parrot.
Why am I here if the issue has been resolved? I'm not here playing games.
If I had what I needed I would move on.
When they give you feedback ask to them to show it to you, else you are just that, a parrot.
Sanlam's replyOfficial
10 Jun 2025, 12:37Hello Joe
We have again reached out to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Cre
We have again reached out to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Cre
Sanlam's reply10 Jun 2025, 12:37
Official
Hello Joe
We have again reached out to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Cre
We have again reached out to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Cre
Sanlam's replyOfficial
10 Jun 2025, 12:46Hello Joe
We have checked in with Sanlam Corporate and they have indicated that they would like to give you a call to sort this matter out.
What time during the day will it be convenient for you to receive a call from them?
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have checked in with Sanlam Corporate and they have indicated that they would like to give you a call to sort this matter out.
What time during the day will it be convenient for you to receive a call from them?
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's reply10 Jun 2025, 12:46
Official
Hello Joe
We have checked in with Sanlam Corporate and they have indicated that they would like to give you a call to sort this matter out.
What time during the day will it be convenient for you to receive a call from them?
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have checked in with Sanlam Corporate and they have indicated that they would like to give you a call to sort this matter out.
What time during the day will it be convenient for you to receive a call from them?
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
JS
Joe S's updateReviewer Update
10 Jun 2025, 13:12Since you seem to be out of the loop regarding the status of the issues, and keep claiming it is resolved, I can only assume you're not seeing the correspondence.
Let me help you, wrote.
"On Friday I booked out 3-4 pm for the call Wanda confirmed call that never arrived. I have no faith you will follow through, nor time to waste, and want an email trail of our exchanges."
To which your organisation rep****.
"We apologize sincerely for the call back that was missed by the previous agent ," is why I am unable to accommodate a call. You make promises, I move my diary around, then you don't call.
Btw, this is South Africa; it is spelled "apologise".
I previously asked "Please, bring the team onto this email thread so I don't have to explain the context yet again. It's exhausting between HelloPeter, social media and all the personal investment groups I am sharing this experience with." - why can't you do that? I asked first, don't you deal with people who don't have access to their mobile during the day?
I need the email trail, because many people are advising me to approach the FAIS Ombud. If you force me to spend the 2-3 months for a case to be allocated for investigation, I am going to be damn sure to take that time to warn everyone else i know about the pitfalls of trying to change contact information with Sanlam.
Let me help you, wrote.
"On Friday I booked out 3-4 pm for the call Wanda confirmed call that never arrived. I have no faith you will follow through, nor time to waste, and want an email trail of our exchanges."
To which your organisation rep****.
"We apologize sincerely for the call back that was missed by the previous agent ," is why I am unable to accommodate a call. You make promises, I move my diary around, then you don't call.
Btw, this is South Africa; it is spelled "apologise".
I previously asked "Please, bring the team onto this email thread so I don't have to explain the context yet again. It's exhausting between HelloPeter, social media and all the personal investment groups I am sharing this experience with." - why can't you do that? I asked first, don't you deal with people who don't have access to their mobile during the day?
I need the email trail, because many people are advising me to approach the FAIS Ombud. If you force me to spend the 2-3 months for a case to be allocated for investigation, I am going to be damn sure to take that time to warn everyone else i know about the pitfalls of trying to change contact information with Sanlam.
JS
Joe S's update10 Jun 2025, 13:12
Reviewer Update
Since you seem to be out of the loop regarding the status of the issues, and keep claiming it is resolved, I can only assume you're not seeing the correspondence.
Let me help you, wrote.
"On Friday I booked out 3-4 pm for the call Wanda confirmed call that never arrived. I have no faith you will follow through, nor time to waste, and want an email trail of our exchanges."
To which your organisation rep****.
"We apologize sincerely for the call back that was missed by the previous agent ," is why I am unable to accommodate a call. You make promises, I move my diary around, then you don't call.
Btw, this is South Africa; it is spelled "apologise".
I previously asked "Please, bring the team onto this email thread so I don't have to explain the context yet again. It's exhausting between HelloPeter, social media and all the personal investment groups I am sharing this experience with." - why can't you do that? I asked first, don't you deal with people who don't have access to their mobile during the day?
I need the email trail, because many people are advising me to approach the FAIS Ombud. If you force me to spend the 2-3 months for a case to be allocated for investigation, I am going to be damn sure to take that time to warn everyone else i know about the pitfalls of trying to change contact information with Sanlam.
Let me help you, wrote.
"On Friday I booked out 3-4 pm for the call Wanda confirmed call that never arrived. I have no faith you will follow through, nor time to waste, and want an email trail of our exchanges."
To which your organisation rep****.
"We apologize sincerely for the call back that was missed by the previous agent ," is why I am unable to accommodate a call. You make promises, I move my diary around, then you don't call.
Btw, this is South Africa; it is spelled "apologise".
I previously asked "Please, bring the team onto this email thread so I don't have to explain the context yet again. It's exhausting between HelloPeter, social media and all the personal investment groups I am sharing this experience with." - why can't you do that? I asked first, don't you deal with people who don't have access to their mobile during the day?
I need the email trail, because many people are advising me to approach the FAIS Ombud. If you force me to spend the 2-3 months for a case to be allocated for investigation, I am going to be damn sure to take that time to warn everyone else i know about the pitfalls of trying to change contact information with Sanlam.
Sanlam's replyOfficial
10 Jun 2025, 13:28Hello Joe
We have relayed your message and request to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have relayed your message and request to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's reply10 Jun 2025, 13:28
Official
Hello Joe
We have relayed your message and request to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have relayed your message and request to Sanlam Corporate.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's replyOfficial
10 Jun 2025, 14:53Good afternoon Joe
Sanlam Corporate has indicated that they have sent you an email in order to establish exactly how they may assist you further.
As we do not have access to their records on this platform, we request that you please reply to their email for any further assistance required.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam Corporate has indicated that they have sent you an email in order to establish exactly how they may assist you further.
As we do not have access to their records on this platform, we request that you please reply to their email for any further assistance required.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's reply10 Jun 2025, 14:53
Official
Good afternoon Joe
Sanlam Corporate has indicated that they have sent you an email in order to establish exactly how they may assist you further.
As we do not have access to their records on this platform, we request that you please reply to their email for any further assistance required.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam Corporate has indicated that they have sent you an email in order to establish exactly how they may assist you further.
As we do not have access to their records on this platform, we request that you please reply to their email for any further assistance required.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
JS
Joe S's updateReviewer Update
10 Jun 2025, 16:44Dear Sanlam client Parrot,
Please, stop updating when you send me emails, its sueprflous, I get the email and reply right away.
Your response time KPIs are not my concern, my issues with Sanlam are.
After dealing with maybe the 15th person on the the thread, your team have finally admitted you have a problem with your software systems.
"I am currently engaging with our IT team to determine why the auto system on our What’s app channel is not picking up your correct security cell number to provide you with an OTP."
When the matter is resolved, I will let you know and we can consider the matter resolved.
I'm appealing to you, because people already can't believe this thread. We don't need a parrot.
Please, stop updating when you send me emails, its sueprflous, I get the email and reply right away.
Your response time KPIs are not my concern, my issues with Sanlam are.
After dealing with maybe the 15th person on the the thread, your team have finally admitted you have a problem with your software systems.
"I am currently engaging with our IT team to determine why the auto system on our What’s app channel is not picking up your correct security cell number to provide you with an OTP."
When the matter is resolved, I will let you know and we can consider the matter resolved.
I'm appealing to you, because people already can't believe this thread. We don't need a parrot.
JS
Joe S's update10 Jun 2025, 16:44
Reviewer Update
Dear Sanlam client Parrot,
Please, stop updating when you send me emails, its sueprflous, I get the email and reply right away.
Your response time KPIs are not my concern, my issues with Sanlam are.
After dealing with maybe the 15th person on the the thread, your team have finally admitted you have a problem with your software systems.
"I am currently engaging with our IT team to determine why the auto system on our What’s app channel is not picking up your correct security cell number to provide you with an OTP."
When the matter is resolved, I will let you know and we can consider the matter resolved.
I'm appealing to you, because people already can't believe this thread. We don't need a parrot.
Please, stop updating when you send me emails, its sueprflous, I get the email and reply right away.
Your response time KPIs are not my concern, my issues with Sanlam are.
After dealing with maybe the 15th person on the the thread, your team have finally admitted you have a problem with your software systems.
"I am currently engaging with our IT team to determine why the auto system on our What’s app channel is not picking up your correct security cell number to provide you with an OTP."
When the matter is resolved, I will let you know and we can consider the matter resolved.
I'm appealing to you, because people already can't believe this thread. We don't need a parrot.
JS
Joe S's updateReviewer Update
18 Jun 2025, 11:06My support request started on 29 May 2025 at 11:24, when I first emailed the support teams.
I had to escalate through Twitter and HelloPeter to get a human response.
As I understand it Sanlam was not prepared for the run on the two-pot system. All customers are impacted by this.
During this process I've discovered that since I was loaded as a Sanlam Executive Benefits (EB) customer, there are separate processes and teams dealing with my support.
Furthermore, that with the size of the business and disparate systems, the interdependency is not common knowledge to the teams, who might not know how each system 'feeds' another.
Finally, I was able to change access for sanlamonline.co.za today!
I had to escalate through Twitter and HelloPeter to get a human response.
As I understand it Sanlam was not prepared for the run on the two-pot system. All customers are impacted by this.
During this process I've discovered that since I was loaded as a Sanlam Executive Benefits (EB) customer, there are separate processes and teams dealing with my support.
Furthermore, that with the size of the business and disparate systems, the interdependency is not common knowledge to the teams, who might not know how each system 'feeds' another.
Finally, I was able to change access for sanlamonline.co.za today!
JS
Joe S's update18 Jun 2025, 11:06
Reviewer Update
My support request started on 29 May 2025 at 11:24, when I first emailed the support teams.
I had to escalate through Twitter and HelloPeter to get a human response.
As I understand it Sanlam was not prepared for the run on the two-pot system. All customers are impacted by this.
During this process I've discovered that since I was loaded as a Sanlam Executive Benefits (EB) customer, there are separate processes and teams dealing with my support.
Furthermore, that with the size of the business and disparate systems, the interdependency is not common knowledge to the teams, who might not know how each system 'feeds' another.
Finally, I was able to change access for sanlamonline.co.za today!
I had to escalate through Twitter and HelloPeter to get a human response.
As I understand it Sanlam was not prepared for the run on the two-pot system. All customers are impacted by this.
During this process I've discovered that since I was loaded as a Sanlam Executive Benefits (EB) customer, there are separate processes and teams dealing with my support.
Furthermore, that with the size of the business and disparate systems, the interdependency is not common knowledge to the teams, who might not know how each system 'feeds' another.
Finally, I was able to change access for sanlamonline.co.za today!
Sanlam's replyOfficial
18 Jun 2025, 13:54Good afternoon, Joe
We have followed up with Sanlam Corporate for assistance.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have followed up with Sanlam Corporate for assistance.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's reply18 Jun 2025, 13:54
Official
Good afternoon, Joe
We have followed up with Sanlam Corporate for assistance.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
We have followed up with Sanlam Corporate for assistance.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
JS
Joe S's updateReviewer Update
18 Jun 2025, 14:18It's resolved for now. You can close your ticket.
JS
Joe S's update18 Jun 2025, 14:18
Reviewer Update
It's resolved for now. You can close your ticket.
Sanlam's replyOfficial
18 Jun 2025, 14:58Thank you for providing us with feedback.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Sanlam's reply18 Jun 2025, 14:58
Official
Thank you for providing us with feedback.
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
Regards
Sanlam Client Care
