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Minienke P

1 reviews | Active since Apr 2013

22 May 2018, 14:29

Illegitimate deductions on deposits!!

When we were supposed to move into on their flats on 1 May 2017, their previous tenants have not yet vacated the premises. The agent did absolutely nothing to speed up the process, she left and told me to phone her when we have moved in. Neither the outgoing inspection, nor our ingoing inspection was done in an empty flat, Both was done with furniture still inside the flat, therefore they are unable to determine who caused which damages. When we moved out on 31 March 2018, our outgoing inspection was done in an empty flat and I was told the unit had to be painted out and the owner would be responsible for the costs. Upon further investigation as to why my deposit has not yet been paid out, I was sent a quote for 50% charge of painting out the unit. (This quote was for R1650 and specifically mentioned that it includes callout and labour) This was due the fact that my TV bracket had to be removed and I was therefore liable for painting that specific wall. The quote was issued on 1 April, but they only heard on 16 April that the new tenants will not be using the bracket and it has to be removed. How can they know on 1 April to charge me for damages that they only became aware of on 16 April? Furthermore, when I showed them on the mistake in their calculation and how on earth they could charge me for 50% if I was only liable for one wall, the amount changed to R1000 with still no explanation of how it was calculated. I phoned Nadia again to ask how this was calculated and I was told that they charge R4400 for painting a two bedroom flat and the painters had to go back again, because they could not finish their job in one day. I was charged for one callout and the owner of the unit, was charged for the other callout fee. Now my questions are: 1. If you have a set tariff of R4400 for painting a two bedroom flat, why was the initial quote for only R3300 (R1650 x 2)? 2. This was not a "per day" tariff, so if the painters had to go back a second time, it is not the client's responsibility to pay another callout and labour fee. 3. How can one wall in a unit with 16 walls, amount to 10% of the damages? I asked these questions on 25 April 2018 already, and to date, I have had NO response from anyone at SAIR. The agent have no calculations to substantiate their deductions and their lack of proving their calculations and answering my questions, supports my belief that the deductions on my deposit was illegitimate.

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Replies (5)
Sa Investor Rentals
Sa Investor Rentals's reply25 May 2018, 14:30
Official

Good day

Thank you for your review. We will investigate this complaint and get back to you as soon as possible

Kind regards

Sa Investor Rentals
Sa Investor Rentals's reply01 Jun 2018, 12:36
Official

Good day

Please see the below feedback regarding your complaint:

When you as the tenant took occupation of the unit last year on the 2nd of May 2017, we received an email from you (18 April) with regards to a tv bracket and two mirrors that you asked to remain in the unit from the previous tenant. We responded and you were informed you that should the items be removed when the unit is vacated, the tenant will be liable for the cost of the painting. This was agreed upon on the 18th of April via e-mail.

Our rental agent did the exit inspection.After discussion it was established that 4 walls required painting:

1 Mirror in Bedroom 1

1 Mirror in Bedroom 2

2 Chip marks in bathroom

1 Wall( after removal of tv bracket)

You were quoted on the above items.Afterwards you informed us that the new tenant would like the mirrors to remain on the wall,which left us with 2 walls to be repainted. We then adjusted the quote accordingly and stipulated on the quote that you as the tenant will be liable for a contribution towards the painting. The owner agreed to contribute more than his portion towards painting.

We trust that this has brought clarity on the matter and should you wish to discuss this further, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards

MP
Minienke P's update05 Jun 2018, 08:51
Reviewer Update
Thank you for the reply, but you still have the wrong information. The tenant informed your painters herself that she would like to keep the two mirrors, but I was still charged for it. If I did not contact her myself, I would've been charged for this although you were well aware that she kept the mirrors - this was your first dishonest step Your reply above, is the first mention ever about chipmarks in the bathroom. Nowhere in any of my correspondence with Nadia or the agent was there any mention about chipmarks in the batroom. Furthermore, your previous agent never did her outgoing inspection of the tenants before me, so how can you claim this damage from me if you have no proof that it was damaged by me? Send me the photos from my ingoing inspection that show that there was no damage in the batroom, then you have a foot to stand on. - Dishonest step nr 2 Thirdly, your initial quote included labour and callout. Why was there a second labour and callout charged which I had to pay for? No labourer will ever charge you double callout for a job he couldn't finish in one day. This was not a "per day" quote. It was n quote to finish the job. If the cannot finish it in one day, it is his own loss, not my responsibility to pay. Further to this, I have confirmed with the current tenant that your painters only arrived after 9h the first day and left at 15h already. Surely if they put in a full workday from 8h to 17h, they could have finished the job in one day? And then I still want an answer to my question nr 1 please. According to Nadia, you have set tariffs for painting a 2 bedroom unit. Why was this not used with the initital quote? Why did the total charge change when I started asking questions and presenting valid arguments? Thank you in advance Kind regards
Sa Investor Rentals
Sa Investor Rentals's reply18 Jun 2018, 13:53
Official

Good day

We would like to arrange a meeting with you at our offices to resolve the matter at hand with all the responsible parties. Please can you advise on a suitable date and time for you so we can make the necessary arrangements.

Our aim is to resolve the matter face-to-face and avoid any misunderstanding via email or Hello Peter.

Kind regards

MP
Minienke P's update18 Jun 2018, 14:02
Reviewer Update
Firday 16H00? Please send confirmation and the address via email. Kind regards