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Just to make you all aware there is a "company" called RNF livestock supposedly based in Klerksdorp selling livestock including these dwarf goats kindly note the address posted on the Web page is: Rheboksfontein Farm, Klerksdorp 2570, North West, Republic Of South Africa. His name is Fred and contact number is +***1. I can tell you that he is prepared to make arrangements for you to collect the animals but when you get to this specific location its a resort. With no livestock. Just beware of this ***********.