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Jolene K

1 reviews | Active since Jul 2012

06 Jan 2017, 06:22

Entrapment/possible *****/possible *********

<p>On January 5th 2017, I recieved 2 smsses that 2 lots of money had been transferred from my savings pocket (accordng to FNB no one but the holder is allowed to take monies from the savings packet as it is a type of investment account). So i went to the bank to query the charges. The gentleman at the bank that assisted me investigated into the transactions etc. and made the neccessary phone calls and eventually got back to the collections department. He handed the phone to me, and when i spoke with the lady, she told me straight and i still repeated myself to confirm what she said, and she told me over the phone that yes she is aware that they deducted money from me without my permission and that it was done on purpose, that until i make a payment arrangement with them, i will not recieve those monies. I then recieved a phone call from the loans department as i was told those are the channels i need to follow. The guy was talking to me, and he told me that the loan was going to prescribe in June 2017, so now by me contacting fnb i confirm the loan etc. and that the period re starts again. I then thought back to my conversation with the collections department who said it was done on purpose, was actually entrapment. This was all done to get me in to acknowledge debt etc. not once did i deny it and if my intention as the loans department said that i was waiting for it to transcribe, why would i 1) go query the amounts deducted 2) acknowledge that i took out a loan. (he stated people take loans and wait for them to prescribe), which i felt he insinuated that was the reason for me not pahng the loan. He then turned around and told me that i cannot put all the blame on fnb regarding the communication between fnb and myself about monies owing. When i no longer was working, i contacted fnb and i informed them that i was no longer working and that i cannot afford the repayments of the loan. i did not hear from them, at all since October 2014, now all of a sudden my savings pocket gets debited. This gentleman in the loans department told me that he will pull all the recordings, then send it to their risk department to go through the recordings, and then he would forward them to the branch where i can collect them from. due to the way FNB collections department acknowledged it was done without my permission and that it was done on purpose and that i will not get my money back until i make a re payment arrangement, and the confirmation the loan was going to prescribe in June this year, tells me this was entrapment and possibly ***** as well as now trying to black mail me by stating they will not return my monies to me until such time that i make a payment arrangement, now i am expected to believe and trust that FNB will not delete certain conversations, or edit certain conversations before sending me the voice recordings. By it going to the risk department first, tells me that FNB want to cover their tracks before submitting the recordings so that should something be out of place in them where they are opened up to legal proceedings they will withhold those specific conversations. Yet i repeated yesterday and it was confirmed that the monies where deducted without my permission and that it was done on purpose that it was going to prescribe this year, and that they will not return the monies they deducted until a payment arrangement is made. ( i will make a payment arrangement due to the fact i started working August 2016,again) but only once those monies are paid back to my account. I told them the monies need to be back in my account by 12pm midday today, if not i will be closing my accoutns with FNB and moving. How am i supposed to trust a bank that is prepared to entrap a person ********ly deduct monies from that said account, acknowledge it was done without permission etc. I have lost all trust and faith in FNB. FNB closed my cheque account due to no monies going into the account due to me not working. Fnb Tells me that although i did not recieve any paperwork/letters etc. from the time i called them to tell them i was no longer working until i started working in August 2016, that i am to blame as well for this. I am shocked and disgusted and i will be taking this matter further and i will get more advice from lawyers and take it further, if the bank ombudsman does not resolve the query as to what transpired 05 January 2017. </p>

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FNB (First National Bank)
FNB (First National Bank)'s reply06 Jan 2017, 13:32
Official

Good day Ms. Jolene1234

Thank you for bring this matter to our attention. Kindly note that we have logged this matter as a formal complaint with the following reference number: ***.

We do apologise for any inconvenience caused in this regard and assure you that you will receive feedback within the turn around time of 24 to 48 working hours.

Thanks regards

Rahim Salamaan

FNB Hello Peter Complaints Resolution

(W): ***

E-mail: ***

JK
Jolene K's update07 Jan 2017, 20:46
Reviewer Update
i have been in touch with the loans department etc. not from you, but from my previous log no. i am not happy at all. They are now trying to twist the contract around, trying to make it out like i am mis interpreting the contract. he kept telling me that i am not understanding this, even though i read point 11 and 11.1 to him over and over again, stating they have not followed the terms and conditions therefore rendering the contract nulenvoid. FNB cannot just turn around and explain verbally that point 11 on the contract was not referring to FNB but indeed an external legal department, yet the contract was signed with FNB not external legal department. I asked him when in the contract it states we will do this if you are in arrears or default he acknowledged it was FNB, but then later said that we was referring to the outside legal people. I am extremely unhappy with this, and when i spoke to the senior manager who was telling me the above, he was not n=bothered about my plight. and he kept trying to get me to make a payment arrangement whilst talking about this whole ordeal. i did tell him that i do not trust FNB after what FNB has done to me, and that if this didnt happen i would propbably have made an agreement without even knowing that is what i did (That is what he was trying to do) i did tell him that i will not be making an agreement and that i will not be doing anything until the monies are returned back to my account in full. i was told they will not refund my money until i make a payment arrangement. this story has been going on for 2 days and we are going around in circles and they refuse to give the client what they want. they also cannot guarentee that i will be re-imbursed the full amount should i make a payment arrangement. due to the underhanded way that FNB dealt with this whole case, i cannot trust them with anything they tell me. I am not happy with this and the manager in the loans department that spoke with me, even acknowledged that what the lady from collections said has opened FNB up to a lawsuit. He also then tried to stick up for her telling me that maybe it came accross wrong, or i interpreted it wrong, (just like im interpreting the copy of the contract) which i asked for a copy of and i recieved an unsigned contract and was told that my name is printed on there, which is an agreement already with FNB. no agreement is in place until such time that it is signed. they keep telling me there is a signed copy, so therefore i would like that signed copy..... we are going to get no where if i am going to be told the same thing. this compalint needs to go up higher than the manager or supervisor at loans or collection department as the lady in the collections has opened FNB up to a law suit just with her words that she told me over the phone. I am still not happy with this at all. i am hoping that with you escalating this complaint that it will go higher and not to the staff or supervisors or managers of the specific departments concerned. thank you for your time
JK
Jolene K's update11 Jan 2017, 10:20
Reviewer Update

No reply, no phonecall, no response????

JK
Jolene K's update22 Jan 2017, 22:12
Reviewer Update

still nothing from FNB ...... no communication whatsoever