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Obaro M

1 reviews | Active since May 2012

24 Aug 2018, 15:54

discrepancy,Inhumane

Myself and my wife had two home loans with FNB,one is fully paid off and the second one is not.We made a huge deposit of a Hundred Thousand and a down payment when buying the second property via FNB. This is a bank we have both banked with for years now.I am now believing that there are dispenrncy when banks deal with you base of the color of ones skin.

I did default on my home loan a couple of times and did bring my account up to date immiedaitely and at no point in time has my account ever gone above a two month period of non payment.I infact approached my bank and made them aware that I will need some breather from them if they can afford me a three months break of my debit other while I get my finance in other.This plea was turned down,currently I am only at defult with my home loan of an amount of R 18,096.00 which is for a two months period. This while I have been in constant communication with FNB to plead for some sort of extension and assured that I am working on getting the amount paid.To the greatest of mu surprise I was told by my banker that a summons has been issued against me and my wife for this two months default. That a section 129 was issued against us as well he said in July 2018.I disputed this with him the Banker and said that FNB is not doing things procedural.How can you be issuing summons when you have not sent any letter of demand to me and all this while you have granted me a time frame to have this amount settled. The banker checked on the system and said the period 14th July 2018 when this so called alleged section 129 was sent by their Attorneys Lowndes & Dlamini was the same time when the post office was on strike for a month and said that probably the letter was returned. I questioned why are we been treated in this manner of summons been issued when I was never sent a letter of demand and when I was infact still discussing with the bank of settling the outstanding default. The question I asked is how will you be wanting to place more burden on a customer whom is making efforts to settle his defaults with your bank for just two months by wanting to impose more cost by means of issuing out summons as there is something hidden to this wicked act by FNB.

As of date I have paid a part of the amount and only owe a default of just a one month. I informed my banker that I am still within the time frame of settling the outstanding amount why would a bank we bank with be so out for blood,a bank whom we had a paid off bond with react in this wicked inhumane manner and I am coming to a conclusion that it might just be an order from those above. When I spoke with the banker and asked if they treated other customers of theirs in same manner they have treated myself and my wife.He said he is shocked and can't really comment.As I questioned if it is a common practice to issue out summons to all who are in default of just two months only,if not why are we been treated in this inhumane manner by FNB. As it seems FNB is all bent out on confiscating buildings belonging to young black South Africans' As I have evidence to proof to the contrary of individuals in default with FNB whom are not issued with summons. The mere fact that the banker said their Attorneys sent us a section 129 which I am in dispute that they never did and I know they never did as I have followed on TV on how this Attorneys coerce with the bank in confiscation of properties and how they alleged to have issued notices which they do not serve in most cases so as to catch one unexpectedly.

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Obaro M's update25 Aug 2018, 23:24
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I am only at default with my home loan of an amount of R 9,975.00 which is for a one months period. This while I have been in constant communication with FNB to plead for some sort of extension and assured that I am working on getting the amount paid.To the greatest of my surprise I was told by my banker that a summons has been issued against me and my wife for this two months default.That a section 129 was issued against us as well he said in July 2018.I disputed this with him the Banker and said that FNB is not doing things procedural.How can you be issuing summons when you have not sent any letter of demand to me and all this while you have granted me a time frame to have this amount settled.I was informed that the head of legal and Mohau Mokoena wants our home taken and in most cases they have their own buyers ready to buy this homes at lesser amounts and they make backdoor money.I do now believe this now to be very true as how else can ones home or a summons be issued for a two months defualt.This is ******** and inhumane if true.
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Obaro M's update26 Aug 2018, 01:53
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In the case of I and my Wife, we are only in defualt of our homeloan for just two months wereas the above was in arrears for four months plus.I personally contacted FNB when I noticed that I was about to defualt on my home loan for any assistance and asked that we be granted a three months period to get things in order.This plea was turned down by FNB,we were never afforded any oppurtuinity to explain or meet with a banker niether did FNB agreed to offer us any restructuring plans on our home loan.We have emails to proof this fact written to FNB,we were never served with a section 129 letter as my banker informed me that the bank has alledged that this was served on us on 14 July 2018 which we have disputed that this was'nt served on us,when we pressed further the banker accept to nthe fact that indeed during this alledged period by the bank that the post office was on a month strike and that it was possible that the letter was returned. The bank did not call us on phone or notified us by email as to the fact that we have been served with a section 129 letter and to confirm if we were in reciept of it,niether did the bank Attorney's. All this while we have been in negotiation with the bank and have at all time comp**** by paying the home loan defualt during the approved date.Is just that when we pay off the outstanding defualt a month adds up immiedaitely and this we have pleaded with the bank about but our plea fell on deaf ears. The Bank has never sat with myself and my wife to dicuss how to assist us in getting this home loan restructured,considering the facts that we made a huge down payment of a Hundred Thousand Rand when we purchasing this property.We feel we are been treated inhumanely by this bank. As the banker has informed that a summons has been issued againts us,I then questioned the banker that how can this be becuase the bank has never sent us a letter of demand,the bank or thier Attorneys did not send to us a section 129 notice or meet with us all the bank did was emails and calls which they informed us that we were either in arrears of a month or two months and arrangements and time was given by us to the bank of which we paid.I then asked the banker why are we been treated differently and asked if every customer of the bank whom are in arears of a month or two months are issued with summons and he said no.I then asked why then is summons been issued againts us,and he simply could not give me any answer.This is inhumane,and I have heard that it is a common hidden practice in FNB where certain races and houses are on the radars of some of thier staffs whom operate with ******** syndicates and property speculators whom force on forclosure on this houses in collusion with thier Attorneys whom then sell the property at sheriff’s auctions for a pittance amount and payments are shared between this Attorneys and certain bankers it is called collusion.South Africa has a shameful history of evictions, beginning in the apartheid years and continuing up to the present by banks such as FNB which is well known and registered in court documents and cases,” I have requested from the banker to provide me via email a copy of the alledged section 129 letter which was posted to me and that they request thier Attorneys to give to FNB the tracking number of the section 129 letter which was alledged to have been posted to me via a registered mail as all registered mails have a tracking number which will state if the psoted mail was recieved by the reciepient or returned to the addressee as the post office was on strike during this period they alledged to have posted this mail.And if the mail was't recieved by me and returned or if not posted then it means FNB is not precedural.Till date am yet to get any response,of a copy of the 129 section letter or the tracking number.I am now appealing to any official of the bank or staff whom will be reading my greviance to provide to me the tracking number of the alledged section 129 letter which was alledged to have been posted to me as this will have the exact date when the notice was posted and if recieved by me or returned.If this cannot be proven to have been recieved or mailed to me then why are we now been threathened to be served with summons.We then humbly request that such actions be reversed for it will be inhumane of this bank to further impose finacial stress on customers whom are making efforts to simply payoff a one month arrears. We have informations of other customers whom are in arrears for two or more months whom are not been served with summons so why is our own case different.This Bank is inhumane and might this be racial profiling how else can one explain this is the banker whom I spoke to can't seem to know the reason why this is so.I am only in a one month arrears as of present. In a recent case that went to the Supreme Court of Appeal, First National Bank (FNB) was obliged first to take steps to engage and negotiate with a defaulting consumer before being granted a court order to sell the consumer’s house in execution. According to the Supreme Court judgment, in 2009 Mr M bought a house with the aid of a home loan of R432 000 from FNB. The loan was to be paid back over 20 years, and the initial monthly payment was R3 337. In 2015, Mr M fell into arrears with his repayments. FNB sent him a letter, which was hand delivered on July 6, 2015, informing him that he was almost R13 000 in arrears and therefore in breach of the loan agreement. Mr M did not respond to the letter. Subsequently, on July 23, 2015, the bank sent a notice in terms of section 129 of the National Credit Act. Section 129 of the Act sets out a number of requirements for how credit providers must deal with defaulting debtors. It reads: “If the consumer is in default under a credit agreement, the credit provider … may draw the default to the notice of the consumer in writing and propose that the consumer refers the credit agreement to a debt counsellor, alternative dispute resolution agent, consumer court or ombud with jurisdiction, with the intent that the parties resolve any dispute under the agreement or develop and agree on a plan to bring the payments under the agreement up to date.” According to the judgment, Mr M still did not respond or communicate in any way with the bank. As a result, in August 2015, FNB sued Mr M in the Gauteng High Court for the total remaining amount of R262 331. In addition, the bank sought an order declaring Mr M’s property executable. The summons was served on Mr M’s wife, with the return of service reflecting that Mr M was “temporarily absent”. Mr M did not defend the action, so the bank app**** for a default judgment. The matter was heard by the High Court on October 8, 2015. The decision by the court was to postpone the hearing for six months, in which period FNB was to attempt to engage with Mr M to prevent foreclosure. The bank was directed to provide an affidavit detailing these efforts to enable Mr M to keep his home at the rescheduled hearing. The court noted that the summons was not served personally on Mr M, as required by the High Court, and the amount by which Mr M was in arrears was relatively low and had not been outstanding for a very long period. FNB took the case on appeal to the Supreme Court. Judge Jeremiah Shongwe ruled that the High Court’s decision to postpone the case was not appealable, because it was not a final judgment. The appeal was struck off the roll.
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FNB (First National Bank)'s reply27 Aug 2018, 11:14
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Good Day,

I acknowledge receipt of your complaint and apologise for the inconvenience caused. Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.

Complaint reference number ***NF was issued for your complaint. I have escalated your complaint to FNB Private Clients who will investigate the matter and provide feedback.

One again I apologise for the frustration caused.

Regards,

Hello Peter Complaints Team

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