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melissasa M

1 reviews | Active since Oct 2016

26 Oct 2017, 10:03

Paint the ceiling instead of fixing the underlying problem

I needed to speak URGENTLY to a manager as the matter is URGENT. A manager was not available to assist.

Please listen to the voice recordings and then respond.

After the storm there was leaking in my kitchen.

They sent an assessor to determine whether it was caused by storm damage or neglect on part of the previous owners.

No one got back to me. I had to call to ask about the status of my claim. Which was also a bit of a shocker.

They said they had decided to settle - approx R6 000.

I said - no where am I going to get someone to fix my roof for R6 000 in Johannesburg? She never said that the assessor couldn't find the damage to the roof! Not once!

Well my husband and I found it and made the assumption that the assessor must have found it too. There is damage to the board on the side of the house where the main house meets the granny flat.

That is where the water was coming in. Common sense right?

It wasn't there before either and it was a bad storm as per my nanny. I later heard there was a tornado not too far away.

When the guy arrived at my house this morning I asked him so what all are you going to be doing today? He said paint the ceiling and replace the cornices and ceiling boards. I SAID NOOOO. How is that going to fix the problem?

That just means that on the weekend when it rains a bit heavy again I will need to claim again!

I spoke to a claims consultant - I was irate with him as I don't want someone to just paint the ceiling - they need to fix it too. No manager was available to tell me what to do.

I phoned the guy tasked with making it look pretty and not fixing the underlying cause- he said he was not asked to fix the hole. So I told him that he is wasting his time then as he'll have to do it all over again.

It makes sense that there has to be an underlying cause. Water doesn't fall through a roof that has no problems. How is that logical?

I asked First for Women to fix the roof - as in do it properly so that if there is a future roof claim I don't get blamed for not doing it properly when the claim was settled. This is not my idea of doing a proper job.

I still don't know what to do. Can someone with a logical brain please give me proper advise / options or I am going straight to the Ombudsman!

If it was a choice between making the roof pretty or R6000 I think I would have begrudgingly accepted the R6 000 as that is still a step above a paint job.

Light rain doesn't get in which tells me that the rain blows into the ceiling from the hole during bad or windy storms.

Please all I wanted is that someone comes and fixes the underlying problem and then paints / makes the ceiling pretty again. This doesn't make any sense and I don't want to put in multiple claims for something that can be avoided by doing the right thing now.

Please call the guy that is there now and ask him to fix the side of the roof where the hole is.

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Regards, Melissa

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Replies (17)
1st for Women
1st for Women's reply26 Oct 2017, 10:06
Official

We acknowledge receipt of your complaint.

One of our Customer Relation Specialist will be in contact with you to discuss the matter.

Kind Regards,
The First for Women Team.

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melissasa M's update26 Oct 2017, 10:13
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Thank You I did speak to Dorothy. The people are leaving and I have no idea what state they are leaving my house in. For all I know all the ceiling boards have been ********** already. I've asked my nanny to send me pics. This could have been avoided had a manager been available to tell me what needs to happen. This is a disaster and it needs immediate attention - please.
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melissasa M's update26 Oct 2017, 10:28
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I spoke to the contractor. He said he can see the hole where the water is coming in. He has stopped working. He says he will do another assessment and report before he leaves to see what all actually needs to be done and will send through to you. Sounds like your assessor either made a mistake or was not very thorough. He agrees that what he was sent to do will not fix the underlying cause.
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melissasa M's update31 Oct 2017, 08:09
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I haven't heard brack from First for Women on this yet. They promised to send me a report and a quote to fix the roof.
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1st for Women's reply31 Oct 2017, 09:13
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Update:

We confirm that our claims team will be in contact with you this morning with regards to the outstanding report.

Kind Regards,
The First for Women Team.

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melissasa M's update31 Oct 2017, 09:13
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Thanks
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melissasa M's update31 Oct 2017, 09:45
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Hi there. Claims sent me the old report. If the second assessment did indeed find that the roof is of an unsound construction, I need it in writing in order to take up litigation proceedings with the previous owners. Had I received feedback on the first assessment, I would have likely accepted the money as I can get the ceiling painted for cheaper than R6 000. But I'm glad I pushed this as now we know what the underlying problem is. Please send through the second report and quotation as discussed so that I can make arrangements to fix the underlying cause.
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melissasa M's update31 Oct 2017, 09:50
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Thanks Dorothy
1st for Women
1st for Women's reply01 Nov 2017, 19:43
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Update:

We confirm that our claims department has been in contact with you. Final feedback will be supp**** to you by our claims team.

Thank you for your understanding, we appreciate it.

Kind Regards,
The First for Women Team.

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melissasa M's update06 Nov 2017, 10:41
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Hi Dorathy. Zama is saying there is going to be an issue with my claim because they already started working on my ceiling. Therefor there would be a deduction on the monies owed to me. I told her that it wasn't my fault that nobody gave me adequate feedback from the assessors report and told me that they would just be making cosmetic changes. How is that my fault? I have not yet received my excess refund from them in order to make the excess payment to First for Women to receive the money to fix the roof myself. I am currently uninsured whilst the roof is not fixed. If something happens to my roof now while I'm waiting for First for Women, then I will have to pay for this. How is this fair?
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melissasa M's update06 Nov 2017, 10:43
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Please see if there is something you can do to expedite this situation. Its storm season. I am outstanding a proper quotation, excess refund from the third supplier and payment. I contacted a third party and he says he has found the proper source of the leak. He has also undertaken to quote me to redo the waterproofing on my roof. I have no way of paying him as things currently stand.
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melissasa M's update06 Nov 2017, 10:47
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Is there no way I can pay the excess once the money has been refunded to me in the meantime?
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melissasa M's update06 Nov 2017, 10:48
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Meaning that the monies can be released to me so long in order to fix the roof so long.
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melissasa M's update07 Nov 2017, 08:54
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I've contacted the third party myself. He didn't even know that a refund was required. So I've made the arrangements for the refund myself. What is going on?
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melissasa M's update07 Nov 2017, 09:35
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Hi Louis Sorry I was in a meeting and couldn't take the call. Thanks Melissa
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melissasa M's update07 Nov 2017, 10:51
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Our third party guy is coming tomorrow to fix the hole and write a report. That should at least mitigate any potential future leaking in the interim. Your supplier says they replaced a cornice and painted it. I've requested the report from them. Zama said their system is down.
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melissasa M's update08 Nov 2017, 08:54
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Good morning Louis I trust you are well? I received an sms this morning saying that Noordwes Building & Construction will begin with the repairs today. Was that FFW? I am already paying someone to come today to patch the hole to mitigate further damage and write a report as per request so that sms was received with concern. I never heard back from Zama yesterday on the report from NW Building and Construction. Are their systems still down? Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Melissa