1 reviews | Active since Nov 2016
the store cheated me on my refund
Hello Peter
I like to register my complain concerning the conduct and unprofessionalism by Cielo Furniture store at the Brooklyn Mall in Pretoria. In April 2018, I placed a couch, a mirror and a dining table and chairs on lay-bye. On 11 December 2018, I went to the store to change the chairs for the dining table; the chairs i initially selected and paid for in full were R 6594.00 and the new chairs are R 4140.00, meaning I had R 2454.00 credit. I opted not be to reimbursed for the difference of R 2454.00, I opted to purchase other items in the store. I bought other items in the store using the difference of R 2454.00 however; I was requested to pay an extra R 587.00 to cover the other items that I bought. Prior to the delivery of the items that I had bought, the salesperson at the store called me on 15 December 2018, to inform me that the legs of the dining table where missing (or could not be found), she indicated that the store would cover the deficit for a similar item as an alternative to what i initially bought. I went to the store on 22 December 2018, (in contradiction to what the salesperson had indicated telephonically on 15 December 2018) the Manager informed me that the store would not cover for the deficit of any similar item that I would choose as an alternative, He indicated that they do not do ‘such things’ and that it was not their fault that the legs of the table could not be found. He further indicated that for the similar item that I had opted to buy, I needed to pay R 5999.00 and the store would consider giving me a discount of R 1600.00. I did not agree with what the Manager was offering so I decided to cancel the dining table, the chairs and the mirror. The store asked that I put the cancellation in writing, so I wrote an email cancelling the items as indicated above, the store indicated that I would be refunded for the dining table, the chairs and the mirror. The amount to be refunded was suppose to be R 10338.00 however, the store wanted to refund me only R 9134.00 which was only for the chairs and dining table (excluding the mirror). When I enquired about the difference of R 1199.00 the Managers indicated that there is a confusion/misunderstanding, they indicated that I should not look at the items that I purchased but should look at the amounts that I paid for the items. On 04 January 2019, I spoke to Jackie a lady who is the Regional Manager of Cielo and their Financial Manager (I cannot recall the gentleman’s name) on the phone, about the refund and the disputed amount to be paid. Both Managers insisted that I should not focus on the items that I bought rather I should focus on the total amount that I had paid. This was not in line with the sale agreement with Cielo and I refused to focus on the total amount as suggested by the Managers, the agreement was on the items and the money I paid for the items, this is the basis of the contract of sale with Cielo. The company only changed its position once I cancelled the items and demanded to be refunded the money I paid for the items.
Furthermore, the Finance Manager suggested to Jackie that I sign a new invoice for the items, which is different from the initial invoice. The revised invoice was indicating that I utilised a some of R 1200 for the previous sales that I had concluded with Cielo. In Conclusion, I want either the total amount I paid for which is R 10338.00 or the mirror, since the suggested refund amount of R 9134.00 excludes the mirror.
With reference to your complaint posted on Hello Peter and other social media platforms. We dispute the claims made. Our Financial Manager has spent considerable time telephonically with you to explain the calculations to no avail. We have audited the transactions again and the calculations are correct. It is sad to see such unsubstantiated and unfounded allegations accusing us of *****/theft on a public platform such as this. We do not cheat our customers. We adhere to proper accounting systems and principles. We would of course prefer to deal with the matter professionally through proper channels, however since the allegations were made public, we have to make a statement to clarify this unfounded allegation that was made in public.
We have by no means cheated you and we strongly advise that you consult an accountant. We have emailed you a thorough email with all calculations. We are also willing to involve a third-party auditing firm to audit this transaction and are willing to pay the full cost of such audit if such a third party deem the calculations to be incorrect, as well as additional compensation in the form of a substantial shopping voucher. This would of course be subject to you agreeing to pay the cost of such an audit if our calculations were in fact correct. Alternatively, you could contact the Consumer Ombud who could look at the transaction for you and advise you accordingly. We are confident that they will confirm that we have in no way cheated you.
CIELO
On behalf of the Cielo management team.
With reference to your complaint posted on Hello Peter and other social media platforms. We dispute the claims made. Our Financial Manager has spent considerable time telephonically with you to explain the calculations to no avail. We have audited the transactions again and the calculations are correct. It is sad to see such unsubstantiated and unfounded allegations accusing us of *****/theft on a public platform such as this. We do not cheat our customers. We adhere to proper accounting systems and principles. We would of course prefer to deal with the matter professionally through proper channels, however since the allegations were made public, we have to make a statement to clarify this unfounded allegation that was made in public.
We have by no means cheated you and we strongly advise that you consult an accountant. We have emailed you a thorough email with all calculations. We are also willing to involve a third-party auditing firm to audit this transaction and are willing to pay the full cost of such audit if such a third party deem the calculations to be incorrect, as well as additional compensation in the form of a substantial shopping voucher. This would of course be subject to you agreeing to pay the cost of such an audit if our calculations were in fact correct. Alternatively, you could contact the Consumer Ombud who could look at the transaction for you and advise you accordingly. We are confident that they will confirm that we have in no way cheated you.
CIELO
On behalf of the Cielo management team.
We refer to our email from our financial manager. You should respond to him via email as we cannot discuss details of transactions etc, on this platform. As mentioned, we have gone over the transactions and it was done correctly. We have sent a complete breakdown of all transactions, payments and credits with complete ledgers all balancing. Again, if you do not agree you are welcome to take this to the consumer ombud, or ask a auditor to audit the transaction. We will gladly pay for any audit showing that we have in any way withheld any payment/credit due to you. We understand that you could feel cheated, however this is not the case at all. Rather we believe that there are some confusion on your part with regards to the transactions. You have made various payments, returned product, and exchanged products which meant a rather complicated ledger and this could understandably lead to some confusions. However, we can assure you that the amounts balance and we are willing to have a third party auditor verify that you were not cheated
This will be the last response on Hello Peter on this matter. All further matters can be dealt with directly via email with our head office.
Sincerely
CIELO CUSTOMER CARE
On behalf of the Cielo Management Team
We refer to our email from our financial manager. You should respond to him via email as we cannot discuss details of transactions etc, on this platform. As mentioned, we have gone over the transactions and it was done correctly. We have sent a complete breakdown of all transactions, payments and credits with complete ledgers all balancing. Again, if you do not agree you are welcome to take this to the consumer ombud, or ask a auditor to audit the transaction. We will gladly pay for any audit showing that we have in any way withheld any payment/credit due to you. We understand that you could feel cheated, however this is not the case at all. Rather we believe that there are some confusion on your part with regards to the transactions. You have made various payments, returned product, and exchanged products which meant a rather complicated ledger and this could understandably lead to some confusions. However, we can assure you that the amounts balance and we are willing to have a third party auditor verify that you were not cheated
This will be the last response on Hello Peter on this matter. All further matters can be dealt with directly via email with our head office.
Sincerely
CIELO CUSTOMER CARE
On behalf of the Cielo Management Team
