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Cristal S

1 reviews | Active since Sept 2014

03 Jan 2018, 10:17

Refund on excess

Good Day

Im very disappointed on how A&G deal with 3rd party claims.If I knew that I would have this hassle in getting my money back I would never have gone through fixing my car through insurance.Initially insurance was quick to send me to assessors to have damage assess however I found out when I booked my car in for I was responsible for excess in order to get my vehicle back.I was forced to pay the excess of R4900 which I could not really afford as I needed my vehicle back and the hire of courtesy car also expired.My claim is currently with recovery department and seems that they *********** of getting the money from the 3rd party.I have given all the information to claim department even more than twice and we heading into the 4th month with no resolution. I was informed to take this to small claims as the claim is too little to get lawyer to fight for this-well A& G should have been transparent and said that I would not get my access back.In fact I was never advise by my insurance company that I would need to pay that money however I was informed the morning when I booked my car in re this.I could have gone and fix this on my own if I knew this would be the end result.I need my money back as this is a lot of money that I really cant afford to lose and especially as a result of your *********** staff.

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Replies (5)
Auto & General
Auto & General's reply03 Jan 2018, 10:26
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We acknowledge receipt of your complaint.

One of our Customer Relation Specialists will be in contact with you to discuss your concerns.

Kind Regards,
The Auto & General Team.

Auto & General
Auto & General's reply03 Jan 2018, 14:01
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Update:

We confirm that we have been in contact with you and discussed the matter in detail with you. We would like to give more insight about any recovery process.

When a claim is registered, part of the process is to have the claim finalised as soon as possible, but we also need to establish the damages to the item or in your case, the vehicle, and we therefore book the assessment of the vehicle. Then, once the claim was validated and finalised, the vehicle can be taken in for repairs. The customer is responsible for the excess fee, which is payable to the repairer once the vehicle is ready for collection. Whilst the vehicle is undergoing repairs, our legal team will proceed with the recovery either against the third party or the third party insurance company in the event that it is determined that you were the less liable party. This was the same process with your claim.

Whilst the recovery was in progress, we have kept you informed by means of written communication, we have included you in on all correspondence to the third party insurance company. The third party insurance company are not in agreement to settle your claim and have refuted liability. We are not in a position to institute legal action against the third party, due the lack of an independent witness, and we therefore suggest that you redirect your matter to the Small Claims Court, you are however not accepting our feedback.

Pertaining to the excess in the event of a claim.We would like to refer you to the general terms and conditions of your policy pertaining to the excess:

“Excess – Your excess is the first amount you pay when you claim and is indicated on your schedule.

Additional Excess – Any supplementary excess that is added to the basic excess. All additional excesses are noted on your schedule.”

As a service to our customers, we always attempt to be successful at any/all recoveries, however in some cases it is not possible.

In your case, the third party refuted liability and we have suggested that you direct the claim to the Small Claims Court as the amount of your claim fall within their jurisdiction.

Kind Regards,
The Auto & General Team.

CS
Cristal S's update04 Jan 2018, 08:31
Reviewer Update
Good Day As stated,im not happy with your response. Im well aware re excess for any claim HOWEVER the process that was explained is that I will get my excess back and recovery team will make ensure that.I would actually encourage that you listen to the call when I lodge this claim.Not once did A&G informed me that there is a possibility that I will not get my money back. As stated to you telephonically, if you informed me that there is a possibility that I may NOT get my money back then I would never have opted to have my car repaired via A&G. I have incurred extra expenses as well as I had the option of care hire however when my car was ready I didn't had the cash and had to pay out of my own pocket as at that moment I did not had the R4900 to release my vehicle.Sharon Haywood also mentioned that I will have to go through small claims as the invoice amount is too little for legal interventions......its actually funny that you mention this now after car has been repaired and I lost R4900. You as Auto & General was NOT transparent of the process and I can also state that communication was very poor .I had to send same correspondence more than once due to your incompetence and im happy to prove that. This was last response from Sharon Haywood: Good day Sharon Thanks for the photos. However they do not prove that our client’s driver caused the accident or the damages to your client’s vehicle. I have also noticed that there a damages on the door which is part of what of this claim but the no damage on the mirror and based on your client’s sketch, if a big truck like our client’s truck bumped your client’s vehicle the way you client say it did as per the sketch, then the mirror should have been damages as well. On the description of loss, your client said nothing about her trying to get the truck driver to stop, she just requested her daughter to take a photo of the truck and went to report the accident at the police. Based on the above, we confirm that we are denying liability of the damages to your client’s vehicle. We are obliged to act in the best interests of our insured and we believe our client. In the event of summons being issued against our client we will enter an appearance to defend. We assure you we will defend the action on behalf of our client. I have made contact with 3rd party and I obtained details of the insurance and it was pass on to A&G however you will accept this response. It just shows how pathetic and *********** you are.I could have done a better job. So my point is that you are not transparent with the process and now act that you have done everything in your power to assist your client which you didn't. You send a few emails and that's it. Please do me a favor and do proper investigations re this claim or please send me your direct email than I can forward all correspondence.
Auto & General
Auto & General's reply04 Jan 2018, 08:49
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Update:

We are not in dispute with the merits of the matter, but the third party is refuting liability and we are therefore not in a position to institute legal action. We therefore suggest that you take the matter further by means of the Small Claims Court since the amount of your claim falls in their jurisdiction.

We are also in no position to inform you at the beginning stages of the recovery that the recovery will not be successful because the matter is still in progress. We can only inform you about the outcome of the attempted recovery once we cannot take the matter further. Trust you will understand the explanation provided.

Kind Regards,
The Auto & General Team

CS
Cristal S's update22 Jan 2018, 10:45
Reviewer Update
I think you are missing the point!The point that im making is that I WAS NOT informed correctly that I wont be getting my money back and that upon booking my car in for repair and paying excess out of my own pocket that there is possibility that I wont be getting my money back.You did an assessment of my car and should have informed me that its pointless going the route and better to fix my car on my own.See latest response from Sharon Haywood on 11/01/2018: Good Day Kagiso, Compliments for the new year !! Kindly note with regards to the last mail from the other side, please confirm if you tried stopping the truck driver also if there were any witnesses – you mentioned you were in traffic. So were there no cars that stopped. I lost all my mails due to cyber i know you mailed you previously but i don’t have that mail sorry. Is this how you defend you clients?I call this pathetic! So here is what I will do....I will cancel my policy and I will reverse all debit orders to recover the R4900 I paid.