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Victim Y
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10 Aug 2020, 05:38
We'd rather cancel contracts than being transparent... Please note that ANGOR can NEVER send you any of your scheme's documents/data "electronically" EVER!!!
We have been paying special levies since 2016 - 2019 to ANGOR to settle millions of debt to the municipality, since ANGOR claims to have opened an ABSA bank account on our sectional title scheme's name...Only to find they were not paying as we were paying our special levies from 2016-18 and when we ask for these ABSA bank statements to see what our special monies were doing since 2*** then, they go "bye bye by terminating contracts"...Herein below their response:
"Please note that ANGOR can unfortunately not print out any and all of the requested information relating to invoices and bank statements, service contracts or agreements. You are however welcome to come to ANGOR’s offices to view this information electronically but nothing will be printed or leaves the office."
Please someone tell me what Sectional Title Act says in this regard?
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Angor Property Specialists - Property Management's replyOfficial
11 Aug 2020, 12:21All documentation relating to the Scheme has been provided to the newly appointed Managing Agent. Please contact the new Managing Agent to request any documentation you may require. During our appointment, information was available for download from either ANGOR Online or available to view at our offices.
Angor Property Specialists - Property Management's reply11 Aug 2020, 12:21
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All documentation relating to the Scheme has been provided to the newly appointed Managing Agent. Please contact the new Managing Agent to request any documentation you may require. During our appointment, information was available for download from either ANGOR Online or available to view at our offices.
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Victim Y's updateReviewer Update
11 Aug 2020, 18:34Angor let me be candid to you that YOU ARE LYING and I will prove this to you soon or you debunk!
First of all no bank statements you ever put on your online system. Do you ever do that?
Why would you then respond like this below if the bank statements (Our Scheme's bank statements) were online:
"Please note that ANGOR can unfortunately not print out any and all of the requested information relating to invoices and bank statements, service contracts or agreements. You are however welcome to come to ANGOR’s offices to view this information electronically but nothing will be printed or leaves the office."
The minute I asked for *** bank statements that prove that you decided to cancel contracts and went bye bye on us!
Why is it difficult to produce proof (i.e. bank statements) instead you decide to cancel contracts than providing evidence?
What was happening to our Special Levy monies since 2016 - 2018? Give us bank statements and not run away...
To date no bank statements and the new Managing Agents hasn't been furnished with this...But let's take this further if you want.
First of all no bank statements you ever put on your online system. Do you ever do that?
Why would you then respond like this below if the bank statements (Our Scheme's bank statements) were online:
"Please note that ANGOR can unfortunately not print out any and all of the requested information relating to invoices and bank statements, service contracts or agreements. You are however welcome to come to ANGOR’s offices to view this information electronically but nothing will be printed or leaves the office."
The minute I asked for *** bank statements that prove that you decided to cancel contracts and went bye bye on us!
Why is it difficult to produce proof (i.e. bank statements) instead you decide to cancel contracts than providing evidence?
What was happening to our Special Levy monies since 2016 - 2018? Give us bank statements and not run away...
To date no bank statements and the new Managing Agents hasn't been furnished with this...But let's take this further if you want.
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Victim Y's update11 Aug 2020, 18:34
Reviewer Update
Angor let me be candid to you that YOU ARE LYING and I will prove this to you soon or you debunk!
First of all no bank statements you ever put on your online system. Do you ever do that?
Why would you then respond like this below if the bank statements (Our Scheme's bank statements) were online:
"Please note that ANGOR can unfortunately not print out any and all of the requested information relating to invoices and bank statements, service contracts or agreements. You are however welcome to come to ANGOR’s offices to view this information electronically but nothing will be printed or leaves the office."
The minute I asked for *** bank statements that prove that you decided to cancel contracts and went bye bye on us!
Why is it difficult to produce proof (i.e. bank statements) instead you decide to cancel contracts than providing evidence?
What was happening to our Special Levy monies since 2016 - 2018? Give us bank statements and not run away...
To date no bank statements and the new Managing Agents hasn't been furnished with this...But let's take this further if you want.
First of all no bank statements you ever put on your online system. Do you ever do that?
Why would you then respond like this below if the bank statements (Our Scheme's bank statements) were online:
"Please note that ANGOR can unfortunately not print out any and all of the requested information relating to invoices and bank statements, service contracts or agreements. You are however welcome to come to ANGOR’s offices to view this information electronically but nothing will be printed or leaves the office."
The minute I asked for *** bank statements that prove that you decided to cancel contracts and went bye bye on us!
Why is it difficult to produce proof (i.e. bank statements) instead you decide to cancel contracts than providing evidence?
What was happening to our Special Levy monies since 2016 - 2018? Give us bank statements and not run away...
To date no bank statements and the new Managing Agents hasn't been furnished with this...But let's take this further if you want.
Angor Property Specialists - Property Management's replyOfficial
12 Aug 2020, 09:35Each scheme under our management is allocated its own bank account ensuring each Scheme’s funds are kept separate from other Schemes’ and ensuring that the Trustees can easily see transactions on the account. Every month a detailed financial report is circulated to the Trustees, detailing payments made and monies received. The Monthly Report includes all invoices for the month. These Monthly Reports are saved on the free online portal, along with bank statements and creditor invoices. Trustees can log into the free online portal at any time to view this information. On terminating the business relationship between the Scheme and ANGOR, all information and funds were transferred to the new Managing Agent. Please contact your new Managing Agent for assistance with your queries.
Angor Property Specialists - Property Management's reply12 Aug 2020, 09:35
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Each scheme under our management is allocated its own bank account ensuring each Scheme’s funds are kept separate from other Schemes’ and ensuring that the Trustees can easily see transactions on the account. Every month a detailed financial report is circulated to the Trustees, detailing payments made and monies received. The Monthly Report includes all invoices for the month. These Monthly Reports are saved on the free online portal, along with bank statements and creditor invoices. Trustees can log into the free online portal at any time to view this information. On terminating the business relationship between the Scheme and ANGOR, all information and funds were transferred to the new Managing Agent. Please contact your new Managing Agent for assistance with your queries.
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Victim Y's updateReviewer Update
12 Aug 2020, 09:59When did you send us credentials to access that Angor Online??? Sun, Mar 19, 2017.
Ok let me put it to you this way, since you've decided to terminate contracts than sending us these electronically...Contravening with Sectional Title Act! Since 2016 what was happening to our bank statements till 2017? We want exactly those then...Stop being difficult because now you are starting to implicate the new Managing Agents in mess you created.
YOU WERE NOT PAYING AS WE WERE PAYING OUR SPECIAL LEVIES...WHAT WERE YOU DOING WITH OUR MONEY?
Ok let me put it to you this way, since you've decided to terminate contracts than sending us these electronically...Contravening with Sectional Title Act! Since 2016 what was happening to our bank statements till 2017? We want exactly those then...Stop being difficult because now you are starting to implicate the new Managing Agents in mess you created.
YOU WERE NOT PAYING AS WE WERE PAYING OUR SPECIAL LEVIES...WHAT WERE YOU DOING WITH OUR MONEY?
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Victim Y's update12 Aug 2020, 09:59
Reviewer Update
When did you send us credentials to access that Angor Online??? Sun, Mar 19, 2017.
Ok let me put it to you this way, since you've decided to terminate contracts than sending us these electronically...Contravening with Sectional Title Act! Since 2016 what was happening to our bank statements till 2017? We want exactly those then...Stop being difficult because now you are starting to implicate the new Managing Agents in mess you created.
YOU WERE NOT PAYING AS WE WERE PAYING OUR SPECIAL LEVIES...WHAT WERE YOU DOING WITH OUR MONEY?
Ok let me put it to you this way, since you've decided to terminate contracts than sending us these electronically...Contravening with Sectional Title Act! Since 2016 what was happening to our bank statements till 2017? We want exactly those then...Stop being difficult because now you are starting to implicate the new Managing Agents in mess you created.
YOU WERE NOT PAYING AS WE WERE PAYING OUR SPECIAL LEVIES...WHAT WERE YOU DOING WITH OUR MONEY?
Angor Property Specialists - Property Management's replyOfficial
27 Aug 2020, 11:47 The new Managing Agent has confirmed receipt of the bank statements. Please direct all queries to the new Managing Agent of your Scheme.
Angor Property Specialists - Property Management's reply27 Aug 2020, 11:47
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The new Managing Agent has confirmed receipt of the bank statements. Please direct all queries to the new Managing Agent of your Scheme.
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Victim Y's updateReviewer Update
27 Aug 2020, 12:04No problem I’m willing to comply, since you seem to be taking me as a joke! I am again sending another email to Compeg (the new Managing Agent)...Though they have already confirmed via email that only you (Angor) has access to these bank accounts!
I trust that you are for once not lying this time around. Like you **** that you were paying our Special Levies as we were paying in 2016.
I have already lost so much money going back and forth and back and forth with you in this regard!
Not so long ago I even had to drive all the way to the Police Station to get an affidavit stating my truth “that you refused to send us bank statements electronically until you decided to go bye bye on us by resigning”, since you’re claiming to HelloPeter that I’m lying! SMH
I’d be attaching Compeg’s response in here “that only you -Angor- has access to our bank statements” but this app doesn’t allow!
I hope you’re not lying this time around, atleast for a change hle!
I trust that you are for once not lying this time around. Like you **** that you were paying our Special Levies as we were paying in 2016.
I have already lost so much money going back and forth and back and forth with you in this regard!
Not so long ago I even had to drive all the way to the Police Station to get an affidavit stating my truth “that you refused to send us bank statements electronically until you decided to go bye bye on us by resigning”, since you’re claiming to HelloPeter that I’m lying! SMH
I’d be attaching Compeg’s response in here “that only you -Angor- has access to our bank statements” but this app doesn’t allow!
I hope you’re not lying this time around, atleast for a change hle!
VY
Victim Y's update27 Aug 2020, 12:04
Reviewer Update
No problem I’m willing to comply, since you seem to be taking me as a joke! I am again sending another email to Compeg (the new Managing Agent)...Though they have already confirmed via email that only you (Angor) has access to these bank accounts!
I trust that you are for once not lying this time around. Like you **** that you were paying our Special Levies as we were paying in 2016.
I have already lost so much money going back and forth and back and forth with you in this regard!
Not so long ago I even had to drive all the way to the Police Station to get an affidavit stating my truth “that you refused to send us bank statements electronically until you decided to go bye bye on us by resigning”, since you’re claiming to HelloPeter that I’m lying! SMH
I’d be attaching Compeg’s response in here “that only you -Angor- has access to our bank statements” but this app doesn’t allow!
I hope you’re not lying this time around, atleast for a change hle!
I trust that you are for once not lying this time around. Like you **** that you were paying our Special Levies as we were paying in 2016.
I have already lost so much money going back and forth and back and forth with you in this regard!
Not so long ago I even had to drive all the way to the Police Station to get an affidavit stating my truth “that you refused to send us bank statements electronically until you decided to go bye bye on us by resigning”, since you’re claiming to HelloPeter that I’m lying! SMH
I’d be attaching Compeg’s response in here “that only you -Angor- has access to our bank statements” but this app doesn’t allow!
I hope you’re not lying this time around, atleast for a change hle!
VY
Victim Y's updateReviewer Update
27 Aug 2020, 14:51Once gain you have **** Angor! Please see response mail from Compeg not so long ago directed to Johan Gerber!
What were you doing with our Special Levy monies from 2***?
Why is it a mission to produce evidence and comply with Sectional Title Management Rules and forward bank statements electronically!
New Managing Agent (Compeg) still maintains they do not have these in writing!
Do you know how many people are faced with financial burden due to all this in our complex?
Do you understand what (mess) you all have done to our investments?
Where are our bank statements? Compeg says in writing they do not have these and have just not so long ago too asked that you respond!
What were you doing with our Special Levy monies from 2***?
Why is it a mission to produce evidence and comply with Sectional Title Management Rules and forward bank statements electronically!
New Managing Agent (Compeg) still maintains they do not have these in writing!
Do you know how many people are faced with financial burden due to all this in our complex?
Do you understand what (mess) you all have done to our investments?
Where are our bank statements? Compeg says in writing they do not have these and have just not so long ago too asked that you respond!
VY
Victim Y's update27 Aug 2020, 14:51
Reviewer Update
Once gain you have **** Angor! Please see response mail from Compeg not so long ago directed to Johan Gerber!
What were you doing with our Special Levy monies from 2***?
Why is it a mission to produce evidence and comply with Sectional Title Management Rules and forward bank statements electronically!
New Managing Agent (Compeg) still maintains they do not have these in writing!
Do you know how many people are faced with financial burden due to all this in our complex?
Do you understand what (mess) you all have done to our investments?
Where are our bank statements? Compeg says in writing they do not have these and have just not so long ago too asked that you respond!
What were you doing with our Special Levy monies from 2***?
Why is it a mission to produce evidence and comply with Sectional Title Management Rules and forward bank statements electronically!
New Managing Agent (Compeg) still maintains they do not have these in writing!
Do you know how many people are faced with financial burden due to all this in our complex?
Do you understand what (mess) you all have done to our investments?
Where are our bank statements? Compeg says in writing they do not have these and have just not so long ago too asked that you respond!