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Tim J
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11 Feb 2025, 11:54
Angor Refuses to support Owner's Rights under Sectional Title Laws of South Africa.
On 31 January 2025 I sent a request to the Portfolio specialist at Angor Property Specialists asking for the City Of Johannesburg invoices submitted to the building I live in and which Angor manages. I requested the invoices for November and December 2024 and for January 2025. This request followed the suspension of the electricity to my building by City of Johannesburg. I received no acknowledgment of this lawful request, Today, 11/2/25, I asked again. The request today was submitted, inter alia, to the CEO of Angor. I was told by Angor today, 11/2/25, that all information to which "I am legally entitled has been sent to me." This is simply not true. It is worrying that, with the CEO of Angor's support, I should be denied my legal rights to information concerning the building I live in. On Jan 30 2025, I requested information about the arrears levies in this building. I am lawfully entitled to this information. In the past, Angor has supp**** it on request. This time, I did not receive acknowledgment of the request. Today, 11/02/25, I requested again. Again, as above, and under a mail addressed inter alia to the CEO of Angor, I was denied this information. This denial is contrary to law as anyone conversant with sectional title law knows. Again, Angor is in breach of the law.
Neither Angor Property Specialists nor the Trustees of the building are "entitled" to deny owners their right of access to information concerning the building's finances. The relevant law makes this perfectly clear.
From this `brief factual account it is clear that Angor - in this instance right up to the CEO - is willing to breach South African Sectional Title law.
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Tim J's updateReviewer Update
11 Feb 2025, 11:59I should add that today, Tuesday 11/2/25, Angor stated that I had received all information "to which I am lawfully entitled." As my review above indicates, this is not true.
TJ
Tim J's update11 Feb 2025, 11:59
Reviewer Update
I should add that today, Tuesday 11/2/25, Angor stated that I had received all information "to which I am lawfully entitled." As my review above indicates, this is not true.
Angor Property Specialists - Property Management's replyOfficial
11 Feb 2025, 13:20Per the Trustees’ email addressed to you dated 31 January 2025, ANGOR will no longer respond to any request for information.
All information to which you are legally entitled has already been shared, inter alia, with you and will not be responded to further unless it is of a bona fide nature in relation to an issue on your levy statement, maintenance issue on common property directly affecting your unit or a bona fide security issue.
Angor Property Specialists - Property Management's reply11 Feb 2025, 13:20
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Per the Trustees’ email addressed to you dated 31 January 2025, ANGOR will no longer respond to any request for information.
All information to which you are legally entitled has already been shared, inter alia, with you and will not be responded to further unless it is of a bona fide nature in relation to an issue on your levy statement, maintenance issue on common property directly affecting your unit or a bona fide security issue.
TJ
Tim J's updateReviewer Update
11 Feb 2025, 13:35This response from Angor is disingenuous, and confirms my view that they deserve 0 stars.
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, are ******** of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any ********ness. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow the ******** instructions of Trustees. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, are ******** of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any ********ness. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow the ******** instructions of Trustees. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
TJ
Tim J's update11 Feb 2025, 13:35
Reviewer Update
This response from Angor is disingenuous, and confirms my view that they deserve 0 stars.
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, are ******** of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any ********ness. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow the ******** instructions of Trustees. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, are ******** of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any ********ness. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow the ******** instructions of Trustees. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
TJ
Tim J's updateReviewer Update
11 Feb 2025, 13:37 his response from Angor is disingenuous, and confirms my view that they deserve 0 stars.
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, have no knowledge of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any breaches in the law. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow Trustee instructions that do not conform to law. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, have no knowledge of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any breaches in the law. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow Trustee instructions that do not conform to law. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
TJ
Tim J's update11 Feb 2025, 13:37
Reviewer Update
his response from Angor is disingenuous, and confirms my view that they deserve 0 stars.
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, have no knowledge of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any breaches in the law. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow Trustee instructions that do not conform to law. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, have no knowledge of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any breaches in the law. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow Trustee instructions that do not conform to law. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
TJ
Tim J's updateReviewer Update
11 Feb 2025, 16:12 This response from Angor is disingenuous, and confirms my view that they deserve 0 stars.
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, have no knowledge of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any breaches in the law. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow Trustee instructions that do not conform to law. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, have no knowledge of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any breaches in the law. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow Trustee instructions that do not conform to law. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
TJ
Tim J's update11 Feb 2025, 16:12
Reviewer Update
This response from Angor is disingenuous, and confirms my view that they deserve 0 stars.
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, have no knowledge of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any breaches in the law. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow Trustee instructions that do not conform to law. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
Angor's claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me is simply untrue. As an owner I am perfectly entitled to financial records that attach to the sectional title complex in whi9ch I am an owner.
Therefore, Either Angor's officers, up to the CEO, have no knowledge of sectional title legislation - which would be a very bad sign indeed for Sectional title "Specialists" - or Angor, up to its CEO, knows the law, but chooses to transgress it. Angor cannot and should not collude with any breaches in the law. If Trustees of a building instruct Angor to break the law, this is no defense for Angor if they simply, limply, follow Trustee instructions that do not conform to law. Angor knows full well that when they claim that "all information to which I am legally entitled" has been provided to me they are uttering an untruth.
This is a very bad sign for a group of "property specialists".
TJ
Tim J's updateReviewer Update
11 Feb 2025, 16:13It would seem a very simple matter: it would seem that Angor prefers to be in breach of the law, rather than to follow the law.
TJ
Tim J's update11 Feb 2025, 16:13
Reviewer Update
It would seem a very simple matter: it would seem that Angor prefers to be in breach of the law, rather than to follow the law.
TJ
Tim J's updateReviewer Update
11 Feb 2025, 18:36At about 16:30 Angor sent me the requested documentation. The CEO told me that Angor had again requested permission from the Trustees of Gleneagles Body corporate to provide me with the requested documentation< and the Trustees had agreed. This confirms my view that my request for this documentation was a legal right of mine, and that I should not have to be subjected this rigmarole i order to acquire documentation that I am perfectly entitled to.
However, Angor has now forwarded the documentation to me, which is appreciated.
However, Angor has now forwarded the documentation to me, which is appreciated.
TJ
Tim J's update11 Feb 2025, 18:36
Reviewer Update
At about 16:30 Angor sent me the requested documentation. The CEO told me that Angor had again requested permission from the Trustees of Gleneagles Body corporate to provide me with the requested documentation< and the Trustees had agreed. This confirms my view that my request for this documentation was a legal right of mine, and that I should not have to be subjected this rigmarole i order to acquire documentation that I am perfectly entitled to.
However, Angor has now forwarded the documentation to me, which is appreciated.
However, Angor has now forwarded the documentation to me, which is appreciated.